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Offline Mol

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Radar Feedback
« on: October 30, 2026, 03:45:13 PM »
Here is my perspective on the Radar changes.

From recent experience the radar now reduces your situational awareness rather than improve it for the following reasons.

Now, when chasing an enemy at your 12 you look at radar and it can appear to be on your 6. That's given me a couple of "Holy Moly" moments. 

When you check radar at a base an enemy can appear to be distant and leaving but as you roll, its actually vulching.

With a 20 second delay, aircraft flying at 220 to 320 mph can be from 1.2 to 1.8 miles away from where they seem to be on Radar.   

If you check the radar and it tells you you're at risk when you aren't and its safe to roll when it isn't, that's not helping improve your SA that's just making it worse. That's not the fog of war, its misleading. It doesn't feel like a fix, it feels broken. I can't imagine how confusing it would be to new players.

I understand the desire for settings that reflect the methods of observation available at the time and for realism, but that's why I enjoy scenarios. In the MA I just want to get to where the other players are for the fastest most densely packed fun I can find. I suspect that is exactly what new players want too. I think the previous radar was a good compromise between realism and fun, with scenarios for those who want a more rigorously realistic experience.       

Can we have the Radar back the way it was please?

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Offline popeye

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2026, 03:52:33 PM »
Not sure it would be confusing to new players.  Might confuse veteran players for while, if they are used to using the clipboard for SA.  New players wouldn't have to break that habit.
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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2026, 04:02:44 PM »
+1 it was better at 5
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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2026, 04:05:44 PM »
Might as well delete the enemy icons and just have a darbar. The “radar” is confusing and deceptive the way it is now rendering it useless IMHO.

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2026, 04:16:42 PM »
Inside active rings. 5 is fine. Outside active rings. 20 or more until something less intrusive is developed.
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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2026, 04:26:27 PM »
Bummer, you guys need to look around a little and its bothersome.

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2026, 09:45:30 PM »

the Ez fix is not the looks the map.

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2026, 04:54:58 AM »
It’s a game.

Offline Eagler

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2026, 07:17:35 AM »
It’s a game.

Yeah..it is a game..where's my f3 view for my 109..... :banana: :banana: :banana:

Close the clipboard when you are near a fight and look outside the cockpit..

It's a game but it's a ww2 aircraft game where in flight instant radar never existed..

I find it a refreshing change myself..even as the change has caught me not checking my six as often as I should..

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2026, 12:10:08 PM »
Might as well delete the enemy icons and just have a darbar. The “radar” is confusing and deceptive the way it is now rendering it useless IMHO.
Recently saw buffs near our fields dove down From .14,000 to 6000 and found out they weren't low looked again on radar and it showed them far behind me. Looked straight up and by golly there they were. The way things are now it's worse than having no radar if it's constantly telling you wrong information  ! I can't possibly see how this helps the new player by giving him false information and expecting him to take advantage of it. Yeah they didn't have head ups displays or radars during World War two. So let's get rid of all radar and Dars and wander around blindly wondering where they're at just like World War two. I have to say once again the vocal minority has managed to screw over the majority. Since they're the only ones complaining about a column that doesn't exist. One last word if it's not broken don't fix it'!You are right it's a game let us play please
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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2026, 12:46:33 PM »
Lets go to 8hour missions and stretch the base 2 to 400 miles apart. It will add more realism
Even better how about allowing us to put it to a vote. As it stands this is just pure crap
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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2026, 12:49:02 PM »
Recently saw buffs near our fields dove down From .14,000 to 6000 and found out they weren't low looked again on radar and it showed them far behind me. Looked straight up and by golly there they were. The way things are now it's worse than having no radar if it's constantly telling you wrong information  ! I can't possibly see how this helps the new player by giving him false information and expecting him to take advantage of it. Yeah they didn't have head ups displays or radars during World War two. So let's get rid of all radar and Dars and wander around blindly wondering where they're at just like World War two. I have to say once again the vocal minority has managed to screw over the majority. Since they're the only ones complaining about a column that doesn't exist. One last word if it's not broken don't fix it'!You are right it's a game let us play please

Did you spot the Buffs below you before you dove? Im thinking not, you assumed they were low and dove. The radar is now telling you "There are bombers in the area" they are not pin pointing them for you any more. You still have to find them, and then adjust your approach.

Your blaming the radar for your poor SA.

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2026, 01:07:22 PM »
Old habits are hard to break...

Give it time and most will adjust..

Trying to clear SNO's six I got him killed by looking at dar and not rolling over to see they were alot closer than dar showed..

I think he forgave me.. :)

It's a nice change for some of us..

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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2026, 01:13:26 PM »
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Re: Radar Feedback
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2026, 02:08:14 PM »
If your SA depends on looking at the clipboard, then you don't really have any SA.

Look outside the cockpit, get into a habit of scanning around your plane, don't forget to look underneath it.

Personally, I like the changes, it's a step in the right direction. Maybe we should go to just dar bar. 

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