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Current radar settings
« on: Yesterday at 01:13:22 PM »
We now have the ability to configure "Seen" and radar settings.

Currently On radar is set to 5 sec update rate (what is was set to for years) and no fade and dots only.
Seen is set to 20 secs with fade and detail plane info.

Friendlies always show detail.

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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 01:19:04 PM »
We now have the ability to configure "Seen" and radar settings.

Currently On radar is set to 5 sec update rate (what is was set to for years) and no fade and dots only.
Seen is set to 20 secs with fade and detail plane info.

Friendlies always show detail.

HiTech

Very nice

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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 01:37:14 PM »
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:36:38 PM »
Excellent  :aok
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 06:05:18 PM »
I don’t think it’s working as intended. Definitely not working how you described it.
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 07:03:22 PM »
I wouldn’t mind seeing the dots a little smaller.
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 07:08:16 PM »
I don’t think it’s working as intended. Definitely not working how you described it.

I have noticed what I intend to say and what you hear are not always the same thing so describe back to me how you think it is working or what I said it would be doing and what you see.

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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 07:57:36 PM »
Here is what I am planning to do with radar. This is the plan, not a finished feature, so details may change as we test it.

The map will show enemy contacts 2 different ways.

Radar contacts
A plane within range of your side's radar and above radar height shows on the map as it does today. Position updates will be faster, something like every 5 seconds. Between updates the contact fades to about 25%, so you can tell how old the position is.

Seen contacts
Being near an enemy will no longer put him on your side's map. Someone on your side has to actually see him. You have seen him if he is within vis range and really in your view, so he does not count if he is off screen, behind your canopy frame, behind terrain or in the sun, or if either of you is inside a cloud. As soon as anyone on your side sees him he shows on your side's map. He stays while anyone keeps seeing him and for a little while after. Seen contacts have their own update rate, 20 seconds by default.

What this means in play
Flying under radar no longer shows you just because an enemy is nearby. If nobody spots you, you stay off their map. Flying inside a cloud, the sun and blind spots now hide you from the whole enemy side, not just the one pilot. Keeping your eyes on a contact helps your team.

Plain dots
Each arena can choose, for each type of contact, to show full detail or just a plain dot. Full detail is plane type and heading, as now. A dot tells you something is there but not what it is or where it is going. So an arena could show radar contacts as dots and seen contacts in full detail.

Your own side does not change. Friendly planes still show with full detail.

GVs may also be able to show as seen contacts. That would be an arena setting.

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Is this the what is in effect?
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 08:41:29 PM »
When you say blind spot does that include blind spots due to terrain/mountains blocking the radar?

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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 09:03:55 PM »
I’m eating a little humble pie here… I kinda like the radar it’s grown on me a little bit and the new changes are helpful.

Smaller dots is all
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #10 on: Today at 06:43:36 AM »
Like the dots  :aok

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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #11 on: Today at 07:03:35 AM »
Is this the what is in effect?

I believe so yes. but please do what I ask please tell me what you think that means and what you see.
because there's always a possibility of a bug or a misunderstanding.
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #12 on: Today at 08:24:50 AM »
I believe so yes. but please do what I ask please tell me what you think that means and what you see.
because there's always a possibility of a bug or a misunderstanding.
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Just wanted to make sure my expectations are what they should be.

What I noticed specifically.

Within the radar rings. Enemy aircraft are being pinged in the 20 second radar interval whether the radar is up or down. When up. Dots show but icons as well and fade back into a dot. This seems to happen when there is a friendly aircraft in icon distance or not. I was on/near the runway with the radar down and bombers were being painted as they crossed the radar ring. There were no other aircraft on that side of the ring.

Also, I was within an enemy’s airspace and the enemy aircraft were showing up with the 20 second delay where no one was within visual range. Specifically I was with my team and all friendly aircraft were well south of the airfield. About 1/2 a radar rings distance north of that airfield I could see a lone contact pinging every 20 seconds traveling to the NW. The distance to the closest friend from that target was about one ring radius away (10ish miles). No one could’ve possibly been in icon range of that aircraft let alone “seen” them.

Later I was relatively close to an enemy base, not looking at the runway at all. And a friendly M3 alerted me to an airplane on the runway. Brought up the clipboard and I could see the radar icon while that plane was on the ground. The friendly M3 couldn’t “see” them as they were on the opposite side of the town from the field. When I looked, I saw the plane spawned but not moving on the runway over my left shoulder. To be clear. I never saw the aircraft until I looked over my shoulder (7 o’clock after rolling my wing) and my plane was facing in a direction where my field of view would’ve never inadvertently caught them. I was the only aircraft in the sky within 4 sectors.

Outside any radar ring, the radar seems to act as you described but I can’t be positive. Inside any ring (friendly or enemy) radar seems to pick up all contacts with icons regardless of whether it’s a friendly ring or an enemy ring.

I’m not positive but, based on the observed behavior of the icons and the distances they’re showing up, I would guess that radar rings themselves are painting all aircraft within them at twenty second intervals and they’re doing so whenever any aircraft (friend or foe) is within the ring. But it only seems to happen when you’re within the radar ring. This is just a guess. My other guess would be that the “radar bubble” around aircraft/GV are painting icons on the clipboard well beyond visual range and having nothing to do with anyone actually picking them up visually.
« Last Edit: Today at 08:34:00 AM by LilMak »
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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #13 on: Today at 08:47:59 AM »
Take some screen shots please, what you described is not what I have ever seen during my testing. And any 20 sec ping and fade is always a "seen" and not radar.

Also note, people in towers can also see.

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Re: Current radar settings
« Reply #14 on: Today at 09:07:21 AM »
Take some screen shots please, what you described is not what I have ever seen during my testing. And any 20 sec ping and fade is always a "seen" and not radar.

Also note, people in towers can also see.

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Wilco. I’ll take some shots and maybe a video or two (if I can remember how to do it).
« Last Edit: Today at 09:09:39 AM by LilMak »
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