Current radar settings

[Dadtallica]

Brought up the clipboard and I could see the radar icon while that plane was on the ground.

So lame using the clipboard!!!

[hitech]

Wilco. I’ll take some shots and maybe a video or two (if I can remember how to do it).

Video will not help as much as a simple alt print screen, save with paint or the aces high screen shot key

HiTech

[popeye]

It seems that "Seen Contacts" are shown at dot range, rather than icon range as before for the "proximity dar".  Is that right?

[LilMak]

Video will not help as much as a simple alt print screen, save with paint or the aces high screen shot key

HiTech

Ok thanks. AH combo something I can ask crew chief?

[hitech]

LilMak, CAV: I think what you are seeing is how "seen" works, so here are the rules.

A contact is "seen" when any friendly player sees it:
- That friendly can be in flight or in the tower, and that includes you. Sitting on the runway or in the tower, you are seeing for your whole country.
- Seen range is out to dot range, about 7.5 miles in the MA. That is a lot farther than icon range.
- It needs a clear line of sight: not through terrain or clouds, and not in the sun.
- AI planes do not see for anyone.

Radar towers have nothing to do with seen contacts, so dar down does not stop them. Dar down only stops the 5 second radar dots.

A seen contact updates every 20 seconds and stays up to about 35 seconds after the last sighting. That is why a plane that just landed can still show on the clipboard for a bit.

So with dar down at your base and you on the runway, bombers crossing the ring within about 7.5 miles of you are "seen" by you.

If you still see one that nobody within about 7.5 miles could have seen, an alt print screen of the clipboard plus where every friendly was would help me track it down.

HiTech

[hitech]

LilMak: yes, ask Crew Chief to take a screenshot. It saves one and tells you which key is yours for it (Alt+S unless you changed it).

The pictures go in the scrshot folder inside your Aces High III folder.

HiTech

[LilMak]

LilMak, CAV: I think what you are seeing is how "seen" works, so here are the rules.

A contact is "seen" when any friendly player sees it:
- That friendly can be in flight or in the tower, and that includes you. Sitting on the runway or in the tower, you are seeing for your whole country.
- Seen range is out to dot range, about 7.5 miles in the MA. That is a lot farther than icon range.
- It needs a clear line of sight: not through terrain or clouds, and not in the sun.
- AI planes do not see for anyone.

Radar towers have nothing to do with seen contacts, so dar down does not stop them. Dar down only stops the 5 second radar dots.

A seen contact updates every 20 seconds and stays up to about 35 seconds after the last sighting. That is why a plane that just landed can still show on the clipboard for a bit.

So with dar down at your base and you on the runway, bombers crossing the ring within about 7.5 miles of you are "seen" by you.

If you still see one that nobody within about 7.5 miles could have seen, an alt print screen of the clipboard plus where every friendly was would help me track it down.

HiTech

So players are “seeing” well beyond icon range?!??? That would explain a great deal of what I witnessed last night.

If so, that’s extremely disappointing and it should be drawn in from 7.5 miles to no more than icon range. Up until that point, there should be no ability to “see” and determine friend from enemy.

Assuming and equilateral triangle anywhere I look. I can look in 4 different directions in about a second covering almost 56 square miles.

[Randy1]

I think your new radar is innovative for air to air.

Still, it puts GVs at a bit more disadvantage.   Not only can a plane find a GV looking for the GV's icon, and or using film, the GV has problems seeing the plane now.

[Eagler]

My vision isn't AH vision..I am legally blind without corrective lenses 

Maybe different distances for each player after submitting their last eye examination   

So if the plane is within range it is seen? Even if it hasn't been by the player..afk,   10k under or above etc..

Eagler

[CAV]

Seen range is out to dot range, about 7.5 miles in the MA.

I'm reading this as...


At about 7.5 miles The game has rendered a flight of aircraft Out of Icon range. But I may not have personally detected it because of ground clutter or I'm just not looking in the right damn direction or spot.

[atlau]

I think your new radar is innovative for air to air.

Still, it puts GVs at a bit more disadvantage.   Not only can a plane find a GV looking for the GV's icon, and or using film, the GV has problems seeing the plane now.

On a separate note I've noticed flakpanzees shooting me thru the trees. Is the foliage visibility different when on the ground vs the air?

[LilMak]

My vision isn't AH vision..I am legally blind without corrective lenses 

Maybe different distances for each player after submitting their last eye examination   

So if the plane is within range it is seen? Even if it hasn't been by the player..afk,   10k under or above etc..

Eagler

Sounds to me like everywhere you “look” the players plane/tank “sees” 7.5 miles if nothing is in the way. So, an AFK player facing forward paints a radar picture in a cone the size of their field of view (at least 90 degrees) 7.5 miles in front of them whether they’re in icon range or not. Basically we went from icon AWACS to double that distance. I believe the cons are measured in yards so 6k is about 3.5 miles. We’re “seeing” enemies at more than double that range now. 56 square miles of fading radar from every player in any equipment.

For a little bit context. If a GV on the beach looks up at the right time, they can paint a B-29 formation on radar at 39000ft.

[Wiley]

I think dot distance is a bit long.  I think it should be icon range.

Wiley.

[Lazerr]

Sounds to me like everywhere you “look” the players plane/tank “sees” 7.5 miles if nothing is in the way. So, an AFK player facing forward paints a radar picture in a cone the size of their field of view (at least 90 degrees) 7.5 miles in front of them whether they’re in icon range or not. Basically we went from icon AWACS to double that distance. I believe the cons are measured in yards so 6k is about 3.4 miles. We’re “seeing” enemies at almost double that range now. 56 square miles of fading radar from every player in any equipment.

For a little bit context. If a GV on the beach looks up at the right time, they can paint a B-29 formation on radar at 39000ft.

Not through the cockpit, clouds ect.

[hitech]

AFP players cannot see