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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2000, 02:26:00 PM »
Hmmmm... dammo.. just lost another puritan pilot..   Salute Cord. We'll miss yah.

Oh well.. I wonder what it's like in the Saint Louis Schools for 12 year olds these days? I should think the repetitive 4 letter words are rather common place. Hmmmmm....

Gee; If i decide to do something with my kid that MIGHT expose her to some profanity, and instead elect to NOT do it for her 'protection', well then my kid would spend all her time locked in her room; with NO radio, NO TV and certainly no CD's or video tapes. And thats just to protect her delicate and senstive and highly impressionable 12 year old soul from profanity.

Not that I'm pardoning or even remotly advocating the use of the textbox for what has so offended Cord and his sheltered child.. I'm just looking outside at the real world and remarking that it's a heluva lot rougher out there than it is 'in here'.

Reality has more vile things in it than AH does... any and EVERY day.

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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2000, 03:03:00 PM »
Hmmm...I certainly do feel for any parent (myself included) in todays world. However, my 5 & 7 year olds hear worse things everyday (once in awhile from me   ) than I see on these buffers. Cursing is a natural form of human expression and a true hi point of the english language (certainly the most eloquent language for the above mentioned pastime).

I agree that at some point it is and should be a TOS...BUT...this is a competative enviornment and it should be expected, tolerated and even appluaded within limits.

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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2000, 03:41:00 PM »
hmmmmm...

Maybe this is not what cord meant but here is where I'm coming from ...

None of you free thinking open minded 'tough guys' (TOWD types) curses in front of the kids, gets pissed off, drinks more beer, or farts more than hblair does. If you think I'm some kinda wussy bookworm, think again.

My point...

Would any of you guys stand up in a roomful of 80 grown men and call another one across the room a f*cking idiot because of a game? HELL NO you wouldn't. It aint cool and you know it.

But there are some of you donutheads (not all) who think its OK to do it hidden behind your pretty little monitor a thousand miles away from the other guy.

If it were really real life, (as some of you refer to) you would likely get that bellybutton beaten out in the parking lot.


Hate to sound so radical but some people just DON'T get it.

It's called RESPECT

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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2000, 04:35:00 PM »
AMEN Hblair!!

I however dont curse at all, dont want my three small boys (all under 8)to hear or read it-- I Dont want to hear it or see it. i do however realize that I dont control other people

Still--its not like it just "slipped" out. You have to had "thought" about saying it. I guess. I guess I am a "fuddy Duddy'. I like that though
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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2000, 04:50:00 PM »
*DING* ......give hblair a cigar!

It's kinda funny... back in the good old days when the men wuz men, and the sheep wuz nervous folks were very VERY polite to one another.

I submit it's because a fair number of the populace was armed to the teeth; booze wuz cheap, and man; yah just didn't run yer mouth unless yah could out run a bullet.

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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2000, 04:53:00 PM »
Can't we all just get along and have fun without all the swearing and talking smack?

Sheesh, I must be getting old. 34 yrs old and I'm starting to sound like Ward Cleaver and Mike Brady!  

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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2000, 05:29:00 PM »
I always do the .squelch 1 thing when I first get online.  Channel 1 distracts me and takes away from the realism to hear all the babble going on.  It also eliminates most of the profanity, which I personally do not care to see come across my pc screen.

But I still hear profanity, whining, and complaning about this plane or that pilot on the country channel.  what purpose does that serve?  Why complain and swear on the country channel where the person you are ticked at can't even hear you! I,for one, do not want to here it.  

I say, if you have a problem with someone, get them on the private channel and cuss them out there.  Find out who that Fu4 or Spit driver     was on ch 1, if necessary, then confront them.  Take them to the training area and beat the virtual crap out of them if you want.  Settle it man to man!  Don't be a whiner    .

Of course I could squelch out the country channel too.  If aces high had a click on 6 call thingy like warbirds, I probably would.

What we really need is more WOMEN flying this game.  If more WOMEN flew, maybe those cussers would think twice, or be put in their place!  Women seem to be good at that  .

ps. If you are cussing on the country channel, don't bother calling my 6- I can't hear you    .


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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2000, 06:17:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Camel:
Sorry, Towd thats just idiotic!

  Okay, so I am the last person in the worl that should say something here...
Cord was a squady of mine.  Not a bad stick either, imho.  I don't know if my leaving the squad had anything to do with his decision, but I honor his reasons.
I also think HTC should invest in the "Potty Mouth" filter.  Something I emailed Pyro about a month or so ago.
When I signed on to AH, I read the EULA and danged if I could find anything in there about language.  Harassment, yes.  Abuse, yes.  But nada on cussing.  (I been wrong before but the printout is in B&W)
Okay, that said...
I had always thought TOWD was an educated and literate man.  His reply to Cord's posting is an insult to the citizens that adhere to the precepts set forth in our Constitution.
Heck, the guy can't even spell "Y'all" right.  
I stand down from the soapbox.

PS  Yeah my mouth runneth over at times.  But I usually apologize for it afterwards.


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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2000, 06:42:00 PM »
I agree, there needs to be some controls on the bad language. As for our kids, Yes I know that they are exposed to the list of 4 letter words and worse, but it's what they see and hear at home that reinforces what they believe to be good and bad. I have 6 children that are grown and living on their own and everyone of them knows that Mom and Dad won't put up with bad language.

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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2000, 06:43:00 PM »
An interesting topic to be sure.
I'm all for having the right to say what I want, when I want, how I want.  I'm also all for everyone else being able to ignore me or leave the area of my presence.
That being said, I also try to watch myself because I know some people are actually offended by foul language.  I'm better at controlling my outbursts now then was I then, and I'll be even better at it later.

Those who say using profanity is for the weak minded just dinnae get it.  Many a time the proper, creative use of profanity is much more effective and efficient than the most eloquently written/spoken fillibuster.  The more creative it is the more points it scores.
Cussing is also a major release for frustration.  Some things just require the use of expletives.

For the children, I have to go with Hangtime.  Go build a little cubicle for your child so you can shelter them from real life for the rest of thier life.  The question is not "Will they be exposed to it?" but "When will they be exposed to it?"  It will happen.  Go rent any good R rated action flick and you've just exposed them to it.  Most PG-13 movies will give them a little taste of it too.

The answer is "How will they deal with it when they're exposed to it?"  Yeah, I know, the answer to a question is a question.  Oh well, everyone already thinks I'm nuts  
I have a 3-1/2 year old daughter and twins due in October.  As my children grow I will teach them when it's appropiate and when it's not, along with the proper use of it (much to the chagrin of thier mother   )

And hblair, when someone's a f**kin idiot and needs to be reminded of that, I'll remind them of it, in person, on the phone, or over the net (like I said, I'm nuts   )

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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2000, 06:54:00 PM »
Simple solution:

Client side language filters.  Let everyone screen language however they see fit.  Seen it in other games and it works just fine.

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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2000, 07:39:00 PM »
Wow...what a great bunch of replies.
I know that I do not like profane language in our CMC Newsgroups, and I don't have the right to sanction those who violate my personal beliefs of conduct on-line.  I have 8 years in the military, 1967 to 1975....I have heard it all.  But that doesn't mean I have to use the language. Several folks mentioned "Respect".  That is really all this man wants and all that we deserve.  I respect you, and ask that you respect me.  I have twin girls 27 and a son 24, and they all speak the foul stuff too, but not around me.....unless in a joke or such.  And I don't care to hear it either.  Ladies and gentlemen, is a term that has meaning.  Conducting onesself in such a manner commands respect, IMO.  Anything less, is unworthy of respect.
  Certainly, we all have constitutional rights, and I fought for those too.  It doesn't mean that everyone has to own a gun, it doesn't mean that O.J Simpson is NOT-GUILTY.....and Pres Clinton didn't inhale! But, certainly, it doesn't mean we have to curse in a gaming environment to make a point. As was stated before, it is lame, childish, unprofessional, and unwanted.  If ya feel like cussing, call your parents, and blast them-first.  After all, they brought you into this world, and it's their fault you were shot down.....or vulched.  Had they practiced safe sex-or had an abortion, this post would be......moot!
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2000, 07:48:00 PM »
A hint for those that need one:  If you want to impress people, learn to cut folks down to size without resorting to cussing.  Vulgarity is the only weapon an idiot can wield in a battle of wits.  Using it just demonstrates how thoroughly you've been bested;>

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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2000, 08:17:00 PM »
Cord, I understand your feelings completely.
I am sorry to see you go.

I used to squelch many guys individually, and TOWD was one of the first I ALWAYS squelched. Then I discovered the command ".squelch 1".

THIS SQUELCHES CHANNEL ONE COMPLETLY.

The ability to squelch all the nonsense was a great addition to this game.

I too dont think swearing is at all necessary in this game.  It only  makes you look like a stupid jerk to the other gamers. Thats my opinion, and I am welcome to it.  You are free to disagree, no matter how wrong you are.

Courage seems inversely proportional to the distance people get from each other.

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« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2000, 09:40:00 PM »
 
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Courage seems inversely proportional to the distance people get from each other.

Well said dago...