Time for the 163?

[lazs2]

eddiek..  I don't know if you will fly the 47M "all the time" or not.  I can't speak for anyone except myself.  I can observe and report tho.   there are plenty of very interesting and uber perk rides allready and their use is nill.  If you flew the 47M "all the time" and  you were the only person it would still appear to me (and the stats) that it was a "useless" addition.

I have no problem with people "messing with my version of fun" but they should have to earn it eh?   I mean, it would be "fun"  for me to have the ability to kick people out of the arena at a whim...  Why can't I have my fun doing that?   What gives the fluffers  the right to ruin so many others fun for so little effort?   Climbing for an hour is not effort.   By taking out a few hangers he is not doing anything but screaming for attention and being a spoilsport.   Make it expensive for him by adding some realism and fun to the game.

From what I have read about the 163 it would be lousy at "chasing down low level La7's" or any kind of fighter interception for that matter. .. Especially, if it had that cool rocket trail behind it.   Given the AH fuel modifier.... How long do you think those things will be under power anyway?

As for "historically" blowing up?   fine but lets model some of the jap engine problems etc.  Far as I can see the biggest problem with the 163 was not blowing up but the landing gear release and the actual landing itself.  
lazs

[lazs2]

Ok hortlund fess up... which one of my former wives are you?   You had me fooled at first when i looked at your stats cause all my former wives would be a lot more deadly than that but....  

rude... well....yeah!  duh.
lazs

[AKSWulfe]

The only way a 163 will blow up is if both of the fuels mix together. That requires puncturing both fuel tanks or both fuel lines and mixing them together.
-SW

[GRUNHERZ]

They pretty much sorted out the Me163 in the end, it wasnt  as safe as prop fighters of course but they got very good at manging its eccentricities. In facy they were planning and actually built a few prototypes new versions with retractible wheeled gear and a new two "speed" two seperate combustion chambers engine that would allow it to cruise under power for a much longer time.

But it was pointless in WW2 just too many bombers and too many roving escorts for the unpowered gliders after the rockets went dry, although I have read the Me163 was incredibly manuverable.

[AKSWulfe]

Weren't the prototypes for the 263? With a 15 minute liquid fuel rocket motor and rectractable landing gear? I've heard reports of up to 4 30mm cannons and load outs for R4M (or some other type of A2A rocket)... any of that true?
-SW

[texace]

Lazs is a real class act. I have never seen anyone more determined to get something done. Lazs has a point, yes, but right now he assumes he is the "Chosen One" as he figures that only he can "fix" the MA for a majority of the players. That takes skill. He figures if he can't get rid of bombers, then lets make it easier to kill them. They seem to be the only chink in his armor of "fun" in the MA. He's like a stubborn preacher. His way is the only way.

Another example. Here he says that us bomber pilots don't deserve to have fun, because we can, in a single "suicide" sortie, stop a furball (affect a majority of the players) if we wanted. Well, that's how I choose to play, but if Lazs thinks that way, then I don't think that he deserves to have fun, because he keeps trying to remove bombers. Not fun being on the same side of the coin, is it Lazs?

Face it, bombers are a part of this game, whether you like it or not, Lazs. There are others out there who value your opinion, and you can go whine to them. Right now, I have fun doing what I do...and I really don't care if you or anyone likes it or not. I am not a dedicated buffer, but I do like flying them. If I "ruin" a few people fun on the way, then who cares? Like Dennis Leary said: "I gotta go out and have fun at others expense."

Thankfully buffs will be fixed in 1.09, and hopefully everyone can have fun their way. Lazs, you are not right all the time, and all the preaching and talking you do leads nowhere. You put in great arguments, but every single time you do you end up sounding like a broken record. "Fluffs this" and "Fluffs that" as we seem to be the only ones who affect a majority of the players. But I won't listen, and all the stats in the world will not get bombers removed from the game.

[AKSWulfe]

Lazs doesn't like fluffs because they aren't even modelled at 50%...

The bomb sight doesn't take time to calibrate.

There is no bomb dispersion, duds, or wind shear effects on bombs.

You can hop into a bomber, fly it in tight circles with your rudder from the rear gunner position and destroy virtually any fighter dumb enough to attempt to attack you.

In the end, there is no "skill" or well anything more than pushing a button to flying a bomber in Aces High.

So he's right, in the end the impact bombers have far outweighs their difficulty unlike in reality where the bombers difficulty far outweighed it's impact.
-SW

[Apache]

Originally posted by Stain
Lazs doesn't like fluffs because they aren't even modelled at 50%...

The bomb sight doesn't take time to calibrate.

There is no bomb dispersion, duds, or wind shear effects on bombs.

You can hop into a bomber, fly it in tight circles with your rudder from the rear gunner position and destroy virtually any fighter dumb enough to attempt to attack you.

In the end, there is no "skill" or well anything more than pushing a button to flying a bomber in Aces High.

So he's right, in the end the impact bombers have far outweighs their difficulty unlike in reality where the bombers difficulty far outweighed it's impact.
-SW

Yup.

[lazs2]

texace...  I'm not allways right?   Now you've gone and hurt my feelings!

Look... with the 163 the fluffs  would still have a chance to ruin gameplay and bring attention to themsellves... They would simply have to earn it.   They would still have every chance that 10 guns all slaved to one steady platform has.    They would still have lazer guided bombs and it would still take zero talent to fly em.    It's just that one person in one ac  would have the chance to stop ONE other persons , fluffers , attention starved and selfish bull.

It appears that you want a milkrun and not have anything affect  your gameplay yet... you wish to continue to have an enormous and lopsided effect on everyone elses.   Plus... you wish to do the damage that 20 planes and 200 crew members do all by yourself.    You seem to feel that this is fair to the rest of us.
lazs

[eddiek]

Lazs, it's tearing me up, so I gotta ask it.  Have I had you as a patient on the psyche ward I worked in last year?  I swear, your syntax and selfishness remind me of some of the bipolar and borderline personality types we had there................                  As for "milkrunning", most people when they "milkrun" don't fly over a field swarming with fighters.  They go to an undefended field, drop their bombs, then rtb.  They haven't "earned" the right to have fun?  "Ruining gameplay", "By taking out a few hangers he is not doing anything but screaming for attention and being a spoilsport. Make it expensive for him by adding some realism and fun to the game", sheesh lazs, wtf are YOU doing?  
Your posts are IMO nothing more than the cries of a spoilsport who doesn't get his way all the time, so he wants EVERYONE to be miserable as he is.
How about adding this realism to the game:  If you die more than 2 times in one hour you are locked out of the arena, or better yet, if you die ONE time, you are locked out of the arena for 24 hours?  Or permanently?  
Keep 'em coming lazs, this is getting fun now!  

BTW, for those of you who haven't gotten used to lazs style, here is the key to his code:  Everytime you see the words "everyone", "we", or the phrase "all of us", replace it with "lazs" and you will totally understand where he is coming from.

[bowser]

Your drooling.

bowser

[eddiek]

Me, bowser?

Huh uh......I was one of the staff, not a patient.....hehehe

[lazs2]

eddiek..  I think it would be fair to say that it was a milkrun when everyone is busy fighting at 5k or less  and you come over at 15k in a lone fluff .   I would also claim that regardless of how much "fun" you were having with your suggestion of 1 death per 24hrs....  I don't think that most people would go for it.   It might even be called a "crazy" suggestion.   I know we're not suppossed to use that word around you people who "work" at mental hospitals but I don't  know the PC one.

if there was some other point of mine that you rebuted.... I missed it.
lazs

[eddiek]

Ahh.......I see now....I will put it where you can understand it then lazs............
Earlier in this thread you made allegations about buff pilots "ruining gameplay", which when you get right down to it, is a crock.  They enhance the gameplay, they add variety to AH as a whole.  I don't fly buffs very much as a whole, hardly at all, but are they annoying to me?  Do they ruin my gameplay?  Not hardly.  They are targets, and I decided whether or not to go after them or ignore them.  
You talked about buff pilots, especially those who fly over a field, or near a furrball as milkrunning and said they didn't deserve the right to have fun, or as you put it:  "I can't ignore them taking down the field to fighters for "a few minutes" every few minutes. They are not doing anything but milkrunning. I don't care about their fun when weighed against the fun of dozens of other players. "
Based soley on that remark alone, and your other posts imply the same, you think you, lazs, have more right to have fun than anyone else.  You mention dozens of other players, well, where are their posts supporting you?
If a pilot comes over at 15K and you are at 5K, you CAN ignore him, if you choose to do so.  But you seem so fixated on everyone doing things exactly the way you want, when you want it, you overlook the fact that each player in AH has the fly however he or she wants to.  Your little "fluffs" labels only point out your motivation.  Don't want them coming over and bombing your field?  What, do you fly something that will only climb to 10K or so?  Climb up there, kill them a few times, they get the picture pretty quick I have found, and they find another field.  How many times have you decided to intercept them before they get to your field and wipe out hangars?  If you say "none", then you are nothing more than spoiled and  self-centered, and you "deserve" to have your "fun" spoiled as often as possible.
Maybe the Dickweed Heavy Bomber Group can come over and just level the whole field you are at, not just one or two hangars.  Then you can move to another field like the rest of us do, get in a plane, and go fight some more.
Fly the game the way you want lazs, nothing wrong with that.  But stop trying to "ruin" it for those who don't play exactly the way you want them to.  Buff drivers have a place in the sim, just as people like you do.

[SOB]

Give Lazs  a break.  His hatred of buffs obviously comes from a deep seeded fear of them after being molested by them so often.  You see, to Lazs , he's like Ned Beatty, and the buffs are like a toothless grinning redneck with a hard on.  That could cause anyone to be at least a little off kilter, wouldn't ya say?  


SOB