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Offline Juan Carlos

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« on: January 16, 2002, 02:33:34 AM »
Hi everyone first of all i would like to say that in the 2weeks or so i have been flying, Aces High has been great, however it´s still a short time to really judge the game as a whole, community, FM, especial events etc...

I used to play WarBirds from ver 1.11 back when explosions looked like paper clips out of a comic book; and just like Aces High in less than 2 weeks a was hooked, i played WBs thru ver 2.something and stopped playing about 2 years ago since i got into college, however in the time i played WBs i had really great times like with no other multi player game ever, i flew Point Blank, Scenario Lite frames, Weekend Warrior, and got to be part of a squadron that made an incredible experience even better.

The only reason a choose AH now that i have time to fly again is because HiTech, and Pyro ware the once who created the sim i got to love and now came up with this.

       so now i ask those of you who played Wbs and are now here in AH what do you like or dislike about AH, what do you miss most from WBs, why you left WBs, and what is the main differences between the two.


plz excuse my poor english

formerly -wyrm- of the Jagdgeschwader 27 back in WBs

now "Drache" in AH

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2002, 02:57:27 AM »
A favor:
Modelo de vuelo muy bueno.
Comunidad, por lo general, excelente.
Componente estrategico muy superior al de WB
Cabinas 3D, un gran salto cualitativo con respecto al WB
Gráficos en general, como habrás podido comprobar, muy mejorados con respecto al WB.
Actualizaciones frecuentes con nuevos aviones, vehiculos, mejoras en el modelo de vuelo, efectos, etc.
Tarifa plana.

En contra:
Modelo de daños muy simplificado
No hay recalentamiento de los motores a menos que se use WEP, y nunca llegan a dañarse
Bombardeo nada realista
Poca variedad de mapas
Existencia de Spits ;)

Personalmente, lo considero muy superior tanto al WB tradicional como a la nueva versión 3.0.

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2002, 04:36:17 AM »
Boze muj MANDOBLE jsi snad kralik nebo co? :) fakt ti nerozumim ani slovo... Teda trochu jo ale smysl mi unika.... :D

eee no nic...

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2002, 04:52:31 AM »
Mad Pivo, pivo, pivo  and smazeny rízek for me.

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2002, 05:04:12 AM »
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Originally posted by DarkglamJG52
Mad Pivo, pivo, pivo  and smazeny rízek for me.


:eek:  :rolleyes: :) :D
LOL Yeah! Where you from mate? Where did you learn those absolute survival essentials of Czech Language?

mumbling for myself: Pivo, pivo, pivo and smazeny rizek!
still cant believe that im reading this on AH BBS :)

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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2002, 07:31:44 AM »
Su transición lo toma más largo que 2 semanas para acostumbrarse al Modelo del Vuelo.

IMO, el modelo del vuelo es superior a algo en el mercado hoy. Mandoble es correcto, el frecuenta actualiza y la atención para detallar las marcas este jugar del valor del juego.

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2002, 08:04:36 AM »
Guys? Seems like im a bit lost here... Im from Czech republic and we dont really use Spanish much in here so naturally my knowledge of that language is equal to zero :mad:

But I have been looking at what you wrote and I try to write in english what I think it meant. Please correct me if Im wrong (i will prolly be totally wrong but at least I tried to understand you)  :)

so to MANDOBLE's post:

Pros:
Very Good flight model  - [if so I agree]
= i have no clue here =
Strategic part much better than WB
3D cokpits much better done than in WB - [? if so then I agree]
= no clue here again =
Frequent additions of new vehicles, airplanes, versions etc. - [think got this one right]
Good price plan

Cons:
Simplified modeling of danos (what the hell is that?) :)
= Got few tips what this could mean but not sure =
Nonrealistic bombing model - [LGBs]
Too few maps - [?]
Spitfires Included :D

And I think that Mandoble thinks that AH is superrior to WB either traditional as well as the new 3 version.


So much for my first Spanish Language lesson...

For myself (and if my translations above are at least a little correct) I would say that I agree with MANDOBLE on all the points (at least if they were meant the way I translated them) and even on the Spitfire one since I fly Typhoons :)

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2002, 08:05:31 AM »
Glad to have you here with us Juan.

To answer your question, the main thing I miss about warbirds are some of the people. It's hard to leave your old friends behind.
You'll find that Aces High is continually developing with several new versions yearly. The community has really exploded in size in the last few months with the demise of Air Warrior, with the population of the Main Arena breaking 400 pilots at times. If that's not your bag, you are welcome to try out the Combat Theater; a quazi-historical arena with a 2 sided axis/allies planeset with theaters/planesets rotating every two weeks.

We also have some cool events here put on by the Scenario Team. Check out the Events Website for more info.

Have fun!:)

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2002, 08:29:03 AM »
http://babelfish.altavista.com

Works great for the Linguistically Challenged

-Sikboy
You: Blah Blah Blah
Me: Meh, whatever.

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2002, 08:40:18 AM »
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Originally posted by Sikboy
http://babelfish.altavista.com

Works great for the Linguistically Challenged

-Sikboy


wow, cool, thanks :)
so I was close after all :D

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2002, 08:43:28 AM »
MadBirdCZ, being  Juan Carlos from Mexico and reading something about "poor english" in his post I decided to reply to his request in spanish. Now that you demostrate so enormous interest into it I'll translate to english ;)

Good points:
Very good flight modeling.
Community, in general, excelent.
Strategic component far superior to WB one.
3D Cockpits, a big step forward over WB.
Overal graphis, as you surelly have been able to see, far better than WB ones.
Frequent updates with new planes, vehicles, flight modeling fixes, graphical effects, etc.
15$ Full access.

Bad points:
Simplified damage modeling
There is no engine overheating unless using wep, and even with wep engines never get damaged
Very simplified bombing
Existence of Spits ;)

Personally, I find AH far superior to traditional WB and the new one (3.0).

Happy now, MadBirdCZ? :cool:

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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2002, 10:23:44 AM »
Hiya Drache!  Good to see some WB players from south of the border.

Flight model: I don't know much about this stuff except in Aces High the jug doesn't roll like a jumbo jet and I can reproduce a lot of the moves I've read Gabby, Zemke, Johnson, Mahurin, et al did in the AH P-47.  The WB P-47 is a fly straight or die type plane and no fun to fly IMHO.  Based on that one aircraft and being a jug fan, I prefer AH. :D

Views: AH's system for configuring views is far more flexible than WB, however I think many AH planes are too generous with six views and the dead six view in AH (aka Linda Blair effect) is unrealistic.  WB has a very nice system which slows down your view panning under G load and you cannot go checking 7 oclock to 5 oclock passing through 6.  The WB3 cockpits are nicer than AH (when they get them right--the WB3 razorback jug gunsight position was porked, positioned right behind the center canopy bracing!), but the WB view system is so limiting--why make 3d cockpits if you can't move around and see around cockpit bracings??  I go with AH for superior all around views/cockpits.

Community:  On both this board and AGW, people tend to say their community is better than the other.  I dunno about all that--I think some people just get comfortable where they are and don't want to leave friends, which is understandable.  The "community" is basically the same here as in WB, as far as I can tell.  You've got some good opponents, a bunch of nice fellas, and "tards" in both places--there's just a little more of everything in AH. :D

Overall graphics: AH is simpler graphics wise and as a result plays faster on more people's machines.  This is a good thing.  I can focus more on killing the bad guy than noticing my slow frame rate.  The WB graphics are very nice though and allow skinnable aircraft--soon online too.  That is a big plus for WB in my book.

Strategy: Strat is a little more advanced here in AH.  WB strat hasn't changed a whole lot in forever, but AH is continually developing new strategy features.

Updates/Support:  This brings me to probably the clincher in this deal:  AH is updated regularly, and not just with bug fixes.  We get new planes and variants about every 3 to 4 months and new strat features.  WB3 development has been glacially slow and was a big reason for me coming to check out AH.  Also, AH has far better support.  Have you ever heard of a game developer calling up a customer on the phone after a new release to track down a bug?  Happens here, and the bug was fixed within a day or two.  Also, HTC's new support guy is on the ball--email response time inside 1 hour!  HTC is keeping their product fresh and doing all the right things to keep customers happy.


Drache, check out the events here in Aces High.  We've got scenarios a plenty here.  The TOD series has events Friday night and Saturday afternoon.  You can fly as a guest if your squad isn't big enough for regular membership.  Welcome to AH and I hope you enjoy your stay!

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2002, 10:33:33 AM »
Juan Carlos - welcome!

I posted a list of 10 things I liked about AH when I joined. The thread has gone but I saved it in a Word .DOC file, .ZIPped up here.  I hope you'll stay. I plan to :)

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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2002, 02:39:24 PM »
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
A favor:

Comunidad, por lo general, excelente.


Q has bebio, mandoble? ;).


Ripsnort: Hey! did you wrote that on yourself or did you use a translator? (because if you did, is quite better than anything I know in the net! :))

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2002, 02:01:28 AM »
thanks to everyone for the warm wellcome
and quick insight on the game.

i´ll be looking forward to seeing everyone up there
 (just not on my 6 ;) )