LA7 vs. F4U1-C

[discod]

I began flying the LA7 recently in an effort to find it's weaknesses so I can kill more of them.  As a result I have also discovered why it is such a popular plane:

- Lethal in the hands of the average pilot?  YES
- It's really fast
- It turns quite well at slow and fast speeds and retains E
- It climbs very well
- Has a high dive speed
- Super fast rate of fire
- 3x 20mm cannons
- Is great for snapshot kills
- Visibility- Front and sides= Average  Rear=Average
- Can take a lot of hits and still RTB
- Seems to be leathal at any alt even in a disadvantaged position

I currently have 32 kills and 9 deaths in it (6 of them were from ack)

Now compare that to the F4U1-C which has a nominal 8 point perk cost:

- Lethal in the hands of the average pilot?  NO
- It's slow in level flight
- It can turn well in the right hands but bleeds E terribly
- Rolls over and stalls very easily even at +300mph
- It climbs poorly
- It's the best dive speed/manuevrability plane in the game  
- Good rate of fire
- 4 x 20mm cannons
- Is great for snapshot kills
- Visibility- Front and sides= Great   Rear=Poor
- Can take a lot of hits and still RTB
- Best VULCH plane in the game
- Is leathal when it has altitude and speed advantage

QUESTION #1:  Should LA7 be perked???  MY OPINION: No it should not be perked because I like having good free planes.  They are fun to fly and even funner to kill in an inferior plane

QUESTION #2: Should F4U1-C be un-perked?  MY OPINION:  No, but I think more guys should fly it to see just how hard it is to get good in.

QUESTION #3: Should the 205 be perked?  MY OPINION: YES definately!!!  Make it worth 100 perks minimum  

[Urchin]

Eh, it is a dead argument.  The La7 is in the game to give people who suck a fighting chance at feeling like they are good at the game.  Every game has to have a plane that is 'better' than other planes, just so new people (and people that suck) have something to fly.  It wouldn't be real fun for em if they had to fly an airplane that gave them no advantages over most of the planeset, because then they'd die to much and wouldn't have fun.

I'd say most vets that can tell their bellybutton from a hole in the ground could go 10 or 15 to 1 in the la7.

[AKSWulfe]

Urchin, just to give you some data to back up that statement you made about a vet who could tell his bellybutton from a whole in ground could get atleast 10:1 in the La7....

Tour 14:
AKSWulfe has 23 kills and has been killed 1 time in the La-7.

It's a monster of a plane, and still gets me as to why the Chog is perked but the La7 isn't...

Certainly the Chog won't be as popular now, since it has been perked many better aircraft have come out AND it had weight added to it.
-SW

[Saintaw]

Oh man, Creamo WAS right after all... this is endless !

[AKSWulfe]

btw, I'm promoting unperking the Chog.
-SW

[J_A_B]

The LA7 is indeed incredible--but only under 5K.  From 5K to 10K it's very good, but over 10K it loses all its advantages and is merely marginal.   Over 18K it's a flying coffin.

Oh, and you're out of gas in about 30 minutes but that's okay because you run out of ammo even faster and it has no JABO ability to speak of.

The F4U-1C has performance that holds up fairly well at all altitudes, way more cannon ammo and guns with better ballistics, and is a ground attack monster.  Plus it's available on carriers and has decent range.  IMO the F4U-1C is a better all around airplane than the LA7, although if the F4U-1C is at a disadvantage in certain specific situations (namely low altitude dogfighting).

The LA7 is sort of like a hot rod--very good performance in certain circumstances (low altitude fighting for short amounts of time), but it's crap in almost every other aspect.  

J_A_B

[Karnak]

F4U-1C was the answer to all of the questions when it was out.

What do I take for the best air-to-air?  F4U-1C.
What do I take for the best JABO? F4U-1C.
What do I take for the best anti-vehicle work? F4U-1C.

Because the answer was the same for all jobs that a fighter does the F4U-1C was used in far greater numbers than any other aircraft, more than twice as much as the runner up. Now the most used aircraft doesn't quite have twice the kills of the seveth most used aircraft.

discod,

The F4U-1C might not be fast compared to the La-7, but it is faster than the great bulk of fighters in AH.  I can only think of 6 or 7 non-perk fighters that are faster than the F4U-1C.

[popeye]

"It's the pilot, not the plane."

*snork*

[Sandman]

So far in this tour I have 30 kills and 10 deaths in the La-7.... 3:1.

I suck.

[mrsid2]

Untill this date I've lost only one 1:1 encounter against la7 with me flying p47.

I've killed la7's in all model jugs, bounced them, turned with them, scissored with them.. La7 is real trouble only if it has a friend. Then it masters the quick run - reverse - ping ping game.

OTOH I've had quite easy kills in it myself.. If people would use it more like a b&z plane instead of trying to turnfight in it, it'd do much better on the arena.

[ra]

I don't agree that the forward view from the La-7 is average, it's poor.  That's the big difference between the Hog-C and the La-7. You can pretty easily hit someone out to 600 yards with the good forward view of the Hog-C, while the La-7 view doesn't allow much deflection shooting at all.  The La-7 is better for pilots with bad SA or no patience, but the Hog-C is better for a pilot who intends to have and keep an E advantage at all times.  It also has more ammo and range.

ra

[Wlfgng]

face it.. the f4 just looks sweeter

[fdiron]

La7 can run down an F4u,out turn it,out climb it,  and kill it.  The majority of fights in AH are below 10k.  I would say the majority is below 5k even.  LA7 is king at low to mid alt.  F4U is king at making a diving attack then running away (then getting shot down or spending precious time climbing again).  I think the F4u vs the LA7 is similar to F4f against A6m.

[Tac]

Id much rather see the la7 perked as cheaply as the c-hog instead.

After all, they do have the la5 just like the smurflings have the Dhog and -1

La7's strenghts are far more than its weaknesses.

Its only weaknesses are poor low speed handling, its ballistics (which in itself is almost not worthy of being considered a weakness, all non-allied rides have ballistics which are just as crappy) and hi alt handling (another not worthy of being considered a weakness, most fights either drag to the deck or the la7 can use its monster engine to dive to really high speeds from that alt).

You can only beat a competent la7 driver if you get him to turn constantly or to sciscor. And if hes competent he wont get into that situation.

[GRUNHERZ]

LA7 suck and their pilots are the biggest rutabagas, on average of course. All they know how to do is run away after a missed firing pass, in this regard  its excellent speed and acceleration serve it very well.

Chog is the biggest mistake HTC ever made in AH, perking Chog was one of HTCs best moves. Period.