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Offline MANDOBLE

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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2002, 07:50:54 AM »
Tac, thrila should be talking about the typhie's horrible acceleration at 40k ;)

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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2002, 08:32:19 AM »
err....yeah!! what alt did you think i was talking about tac, we were tallking about 40k right?:D
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2002, 09:17:01 AM »
What a stinking dead horse.  Please find another equine corpse to beat upon.

I would take the time to debate each of your points, but there is not need.  All the evidence is in the usage/kills/death numbers, and those numbers say your arguement is bullpucky.

When the F4U-1C was unperked it was easily #1 in every category, by a very large margin.  

Right now the La7 is only #3 or #4 in those categories, let alone leading the pack.

If you can't stand the La7, cancel your account, and go fly WWIIOL.

All these anti-La7 whiners are starting to out yell even the Luftwobbles. Are we seeing a new genre of whiners? The anti-red McCarthyismWobble ;)

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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2002, 11:52:09 AM »
That or I bet he's trying to accelerate with the nose above horizon *G*

Tiffie vs. La7 fights are like P-51 vs P-51 fights... loooong and boring until one of them gets tired and HO's. :)

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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2002, 10:16:49 PM »
I have 1 kill and 2 deaths for the month of January to date due to a very limited number of hours available to play Aces High.  I pay $15....no more or less than anyone else who plays the game.  Bummer that if this were my typical number of hours in playing the game I'd be restricted from certain rides due to a lack of perk point accumulation.  Generally, the more experienced a player is the more available the monster-rides, and that's just ssa-backwards.  

So what's the big deal if every single person in the arena flies an F4U-1C but you?  No one is restricting you from flying what you want to fly.  

("You" is non-specific to any person.)

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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2002, 10:23:47 PM »
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I have 1 kill and 2 deaths for the month of January to date due to a very limited number of hours available to play Aces High.  I pay $15....no more or less than anyone else who plays the game.  Bummer that if this were my typical number of hours in playing the game I'd be restricted from certain rides due to a lack of perk point accumulation.  Generally, the more experienced a player is the more available the monster-rides, and that's just ssa-backwards.  

So what's the big deal if every single person in the arena flies an F4U-1C but you?  No one is restricting you from flying what you want to fly.  

("You" is non-specific to any person.)


The big deal is it becomes mind numbingly boreing fighting the same aircraft over and over and over.  Now, what do you normally do when you get bored with your latest toy?  You put it down and forget about it for awhile right?  What happens when you come back and find your still bored with it?  You get rid of it.  What happens when people become bored with Aces High?...same thing except-----HTC loses money, and that is bad bad bad juju.
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2002, 10:29:56 PM »
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What a stinking dead horse.  Please find another equine corpse to beat upon.

I would take the time to debate each of your points, but there is not need.  All the evidence is in the usage/kills/death numbers, and those numbers say your arguement is bullpucky.

When the F4U-1C was unperked it was easily #1 in every category, by a very large margin.  

Right now the La7 is only #3 or #4 in those categories, let alone leading the pack.

If you can't stand the La7, cancel your account, and go fly WWIIOL.

All these anti-La7 whiners are starting to out yell even the Luftwobbles. Are we seeing a new genre of whiners? The anti-red McCarthyismWobble ;)


I agree with Vermy.  If you hate La-7s, then go out of your way to make life miserable for them.  When I see a crowd, I kill Niks first, La7s second and Spits 3rd, err, granted I even get a kill lol.  Everything else is gravy.  The 3 I at least try to kill first are the most numerous and annoying planes I M H O...so simple solution.
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« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2002, 04:03:24 AM »
Real men fly 190A.
Real men kill la7s in 190A.

Perk the 190d9..its for babies.

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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2002, 04:34:22 AM »
I actually think the current perk setup is fine. Think about this: many perked birds are challenging/difficult to fly effectively. If someone can't get up the perkies for 'em, they prolly wouldn't be able to do much with 'em anyway! The guy who is average with the La-7 would most likely be nothing more than a target in the corsairs. I'm not ashamed to say my current perks are in the single digits (been having a bad time lately :(  ) and I have no business or real interest in flying perk birds right now. Also, if we don't have at least one or two easier birds, the people who don't do so well yet (me? nahhh... surely not me! lmao) will simply get frustrated and leave. Now, last time I checked, HTC is in this for profit, not just for fun. If you want improvements, they gotta pay for 'em. People quitting won't speed up improvements any. So, keep the perk setup the way it is, no complaints here.

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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2002, 09:44:21 AM »
I don't think that any of the perked planes belong in the current MA for any reason.
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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2002, 11:30:31 AM »
I always think that late war planes or any "later model" plane should be perked cheaply if it has an earlier war variant in the game.

La7.. perk it cheap, you have free la5. (la5 much more dangerous than la7 believe it or not).

F4u-C & F4u-4 perked, there's the -d and the -1

P38L : perk it cheaply when the -J is introduced

P-51D : cheap perk, there's the B model (which is even faster!)

P-47D25: perk it cheaply. There's the d-11 and the d-30 is a tad slower than the d25.

SpitIX: perk it cheaply. There's the V and seafire. (yah yah its a midwar plane, but its the latest variant of the spit we have)

205: perk it cheaply, there's 202 (well, if HT ever looks into the breda MG modeling.. dart gun gallore)

109g10 : perk it cheaply. There's f4, g2 and g6.
190d9 & ta152 : perk d9 cheap, 152 semi-cheap (about 10 perks). There's 3 earlier 190 variants.

Yak9U: perk it cheap, there's the 9t.

ad naseum.

perk it cheap = 8 perks MAX. C-hog its 8 perks, la7 about 6, 38L about  3, 51D  about 3, 47d25 about 2 , spitIX about 2, 205 about 2, 109g10 about 6, 190d9 about 6, yak9u about 3.

And give 50 perks to each account at the start of each month IF said account has less than 100 perks. There would be no whining then about not having enuf perks.

Tumor: Were you here when the C-Hog was unperked? That was the only plane you saw for days on end. Everyone upping in the 4 cannon, quick turning, quick diving, loads of ammo ride because it killed with one snapshot, was THE only plane that could tear any ground target apart with 1 or 2 passes and was avaliable on CV. I was SURPRISED if I ever met a 109 or a any non-hog plane a WEEK. Its almost like now you see spits and la7's everywhere, but they cant kill with 1 ping from d800 (well, maybe spits can, but they need a to get a good burst in, they only have 2 cannons and not much ammo for them).

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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2002, 11:45:44 AM »
I don't understand this view of "fighting the same plane again and again is boring".

I'm not fighting planes; I'm fighting pilots.

They come in all colours, even bloo.

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« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2002, 12:13:09 PM »
go and Z&B in a zeke vs spits and la7's then. its the pilot after all right? :D ;)

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« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2002, 12:38:00 PM »
Want to try B n Z'ing Levi's Spit V Tac?  :)

It really is the pilot.

I'm not scared of any plane; I'll happily take on a 262 in a 202.


If it's Levi; I'd run from his 202 in my 262; and still not feel safe.

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« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2002, 12:40:03 PM »
You perk scheme is worth thinking about TAC. It takes very few perk costs to effect the usage of a plane.
If the Perk system had been in the game from the begining. It would have been very cool to introduce all planes in pairs.
Just like you detailed.
Have the Spit IXf and the identical looking exept for markings Spit IXhf.
The 109 G6 and the 109 G6 ASCM
The 190A8 and the 190 A8 with armour and 30mm
The Spit V and a 4 cannon cliped wing one...
The B17f and B17g or yb40...
the Lanc and a Grand slam version

The Pony D and and P51H
The Pony B and the prototype with 4 hispanos
The P47D5 and Lucky.....waste gates...mmmmm
M4a3(75) and M4a3(76)with gyro maybe

The perk system came along late in the game but your scheme would have been pretty cool.