Author Topic: Media bias? (Read 2095 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** January 18, 2002, 07:16:33 AM »

The shooter at the Virginia campus. Story was reported by all the major networks. "The shooter was subdued by students at the campus who held him until police arrived". Thats the story you heard, correct? Do you know how the students "subdued" this armed man?

That's the part the national networks chose not to tell you. I applaud the "Today" show for finally telling the whole story. The gunman was subdued by another student who confronted the man with his pistol that he had in his possession while driving by the incident and seeing what was happening..as soon as the gunman was confronted by the armed student, the gunman dropped his weapon and was held by students until police arrived.

Funny how the press chooses not to report this, isn't it.

Eagler · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2002, 07:43:11 AM »

not funny at all

just as Yahoo has Israel's strike in response to the Palestine gunman opening fire on a birthday party of 12 year old girls killing at least 6 and injuring at least 30, they mention Israels counterstrike in headlines but not the TERRORIST attack.... one happened before the other but glancin at just the headlines you wouldn't think so.

Yahoo:
Israeli Planes Hit Palestinian HQ in West Bank

nah, no bias at all

but then u have Fox:

Israel Strikes Back After Birthday Massacre

Ripsnort · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2002, 07:45:24 AM »

Unfortunately, Fox did not initially report the Virginia incident with the armed student subdueing the shooter either...

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2002, 08:13:37 AM »

Guns are bad Rip dont you know that?

Well only one gun is really bad, its that moster Desert Eagle 50Cal semi-auto. I wouldnt fire that thing again if you paid me. Well I would but I'd be scared as hell all over again as I slowly pulled back the trigger. BOOM! But its very well made and very pretty.

Udie at Work · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2002, 08:18:50 AM »

I had to search on cnn.com for the story, it was burried. They made no mention of the gunman who came to the rescue.
They said the murderer was tackled by 3 other students.

On a side note, I did notice another story about an execution here in Tx. Funny how you never hear about executions from other states.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/01/17/law.school.shooting/index.html

Ripsnort · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2002, 08:20:08 AM »

Hehe Grun. I'm trying to find that independant study on the web, it was never reported on the main stream press, but the study was done per state, and the states that had lax gun control (ie, if you were not a felon, you could obtain a Concealed Weapons permit) had a lower murder and crime rate per capita than states that had strict gun control.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2002, 08:24:39 AM »

If it says guns in the hands of decent people stop crime then its not a study, its propaganda by the uhh hmmm gun lobby? The republicans? No, I remember now, its Heston's senility.....

Bad people will get guns if they want them, gun laws dont stop them- they are criminals they dont obey laws....

narsus · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2002, 08:38:36 AM »

Now the question is if guns were made illegal would criminals still be able to get them (I would be thinking yes...yes they would)

Mighty1 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2002, 09:04:26 AM »

They don't need new guns laws they just need to enforce the ones they have now.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2002, 07:11:23 PM »

an armed society is a polite society

a couple years ago i fired a pistol with MUCH more recoil than that desert eagle .50 ae
this guy i work with had a .454 casul(sp?) BFG that thing would kill on one end and wound on the other.

btw i asked him what the BFG stood for, he wasn't sure but the best we could come up with was 'Big shrecking Gun'

mrfish · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2002, 07:33:28 PM »

oh puhlease eagler.

they always say: "israel responded to a palestinian attack."

well....palestine responded to their houses getting plowed down, their runway getting dug up, rockets, mortars, etc...

you would never hear the news say: "palestine responded to israeli rocket attacks"

they tell arafat to crack down on terrorism and then when there is a lull they go plow sh*t over and rocket people!!!

no that's not provocation...

Thrawn · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2002, 07:38:10 PM »

Firearms Homicides per capita (out of 100,000)

United States 1997 4.61

Argentina 1994 2.11
Hungary 1994 0.23
Finland 1994 0.86
Portugal 1994 1.28
Mauritius 1993 0
Israel 1993 0.72
Italy 1992 1.66
Scotland 1994 0.19
Canada 1992 0.76
Slovenia 1994 0.35
Australia 1994 0.44
Singapore 1994 0.07
South Korea 1994 0.04
New Zealand 1993 0.17
Belgium 1990 0.60
England/Wales 1992 0.11
Switzerland 1994 0.58
Sweden 1993 0.18
Denmark 1993 0.23
Austria 1994 0.42
Germany 1994 0.22
Greece 1994 0.59
France 1994 0.44
Netherlands 1994 0.36
Kuwait 1995 0.36
Norway 1993 0.30
Spain 1993 0.21
Japan 1994 0.02
Ireland 1991 0.03

capt. apathy · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2002, 07:48:31 PM »

my favorite quote on gun control is an oldie from the tv show all in the family.

Gloria spouts off a statistic about how many people are murderd with handguns
Archie replies "would it make ya feel better little girl if they was pushed out the window?"

Thrawn · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2002, 07:57:37 PM »

Okay, then why were these people killed with guns?

capt. apathy · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2002, 08:26:45 PM »

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Okay, then why were these people killed with guns?

Just a guess but maybe because a gun was available. Had there not been a gun available the killer would have had to use a knife, a bomb, poison, a big stick, a car, a rock, or maybe strangled them with a pair of old pantyhose.
I real can't understand how gun control people can be so simplistic in there logic (or lack there of) do they really honestly think somebody makes a decision to kill somebody then it hits them "damn, I don't have a gun... I guess he gets to live"?

It takes a person to be a killer, a gun is just another tool, and when somebody has made up their mind to kill someone I seriously doubt that lack of access to a firearm is going to make them give up and not look for another way.

Also like it or not the fact that the resident might have a gun will give the average burglar a little something to think about.

I live in a fairly rough neighborhood; most of my neighbors have been broken into at least once in the 12 yrs I’ve lived here. I strongly suspect that the silhouette target (with a 12 shot group in the 9-10 zone) that I use as a window shade on the back door might explain why I’ve never been a victim of this