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Offline funkedup

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« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2002, 01:44:51 AM »
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Funked look only at pic 7 and 8 making abstraction of the others ...

Is it so cool ?

If so looking at bodies falling from the Twins was cool to ?

Sincerely I would remove this sentence from your post ...


Maybe cool is the wrong term.  I just meant that it is an amazing series of photos, to catch a fast action like that in such detail.

The death of those men is not cool.  Unless they are actually Al Qaeda.  In that case I would stick with "cool".  And in that case there is no valid comparison to pictures of WTC victims.  One is innocent civilians being murdered, the other is murderers getting what they deserve.  
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« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2002, 02:15:58 AM »
Thanks Funked

I needed this explannation cause I didn't wanted to believe you find it cool.
It was a quite shocking assessment IMO.
I was using the WTC comparaison just because it's a common reference of horror. I would have used the Oradour sur Glane comparaison but I bet that less than 1% of the reader of this thread know what happened in Oradour.


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With your attitude you must think that anyone who enjoys watching gun camera footage is sick too


It don't compare as we make abstraction of the human in the plane wich made the viewing of the film easier.

I won't digress more as I need to translate lot of concept I'm not sure to be able to express in English.

btw do you know how many normal human enjoy killing other human even during war ?
It's less than 10% for french average soldiers(green berets and comandos are exception)

Killing is hopefully an exception not a rule in our societé.

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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2002, 02:30:30 AM »
Who is this "Oradour" guy anyway ? :D

Reading that poeple here enjoy seeing dead bodies and Animal's post about the Etnic cleansing game start to make me want to turn the TV back on and watch some A-Team series .... or something..
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« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2002, 02:55:03 AM »
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This breaking people down into targets, because they are "undeserving" of any acknowledgment as human beings is sickening. You have no way of knowing. There's a lot more to a person than the army they serve.


  Is this the same guy, who thought Jim Brown blowing up some Germans trapped down in a hole, was such a cool movie?


Movie?

Get a grip. This is reality! Movies are movies.

I guess there really IS a need to censor these things, some people can't tell the difference between fictional entertainment and a document.

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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2002, 02:18:51 AM »
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Dangit, Tuomio beat me to it!

My father was in WW2. He will still tell me how he HATED all Japanese and Germans. He was taught to hate.


well its common fact in our country. Most of people whitch hear about ww2 by people whitch survived, hate germans as nation. But when i meet some german, i have nothink agains him, i have no problem to speak with him.... that old hate agains their nation is not related to him.

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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2002, 02:31:57 AM »
Tahgut Im well aware that they are human, they probably have kids and friends and love a certain food and have a favorite song or whatever, I fully realize that.

But I don't see how that changes the fact that they might need to die?


You see my philosophy is to be civilized and nice and reasonable during good times and peace, when attacked all that goes away- then its time for utter barbaric killing against the enemy fighting forces. Just no rapes of women on penalty of death, no mutilation or torture of irrelevant people, try avoid killing civilans as much as possible), if you have to kill them, no mutilation or torture allowed just shoot them- but ABSOLUTELY NO MERCY for anyone activly fighting you. Make it clear to them that they will be killed if they continue fighting. Prisoners (or detainees :) ) should be treated well and that should be broadcast widely as to make widespread surrenders more palatable. Its very inconveniant if the enemy is willing to fight to death in fear of gross mistreatment during captiviy. Absolutely no meaningless cease fires or anything of the sort. No cease fires during negotiations. The only acceptable cease fire is the total surrender of all enemy forces and the nation at large. After the war is over you must take over the country and make every effort to make these people your friends and allies.  Change their cultures and schooling to show that fighing your country was bad and that your country is good.

This is how wars should be fought!
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2002, 02:53:35 AM »
Dunno, seems to be a BTR 70 rolling over a magnetic anti tank mine. I could look up the proper classification if wished.

I don´t wanna talk about people flying around and telling that entertaining.....

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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2002, 11:10:35 AM »
Not even the deaths of despised enemies will make me feel good.

I'll always see it as a tragic waste of a human life - in the case of the Taliban and Al Queda fighters, bad decisions made in a surrounding where opportunities to make good ones are few and far between.

Those of you who like seeing The Evil Enemy being destroyed and killed ought to see a human being, injured and fighting for his or her life, lose and exhale one last time.

Taking pleasure in the deaths of human beings is morally abhorrent.

Feeling relieved that a threat has been eliminated is a whole other thing. Sometimes that means, unfortunately, that there will be loss of life. But to value that lives are lost - that, to me, is a sign of a mental issue - inability to feel empathy, or put oneself in a similar situation.

I'd celebrate a threat having been eliminated, and I'd be extremely determined to see all threats eliminated - if it comes to killing, so be it.

But I'd lose my sanity and indeed my humanity the second I begun taking pleasure in the deaths of humans.

I think if you're exposed to the violent death of a human being, one you view as just that, unless you're mentally disturbed, you will not feel pleasure.

It's a spectacular series of photos, and we as humans are fascinated with violence and death - me as much as everyone. Still, I always feel like a stabbing when I view even WWII fighter gun cameras - thinking 'who was that man? How many meals has he not eaten before this? His mother, his father, his siblings and his children - this man has felt love, just as I have felt love'.

What must be done shall be done, but feeling good about killing people ain't healthy.

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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2002, 11:15:56 AM »
My list of things worth dying for is much MUCH larger than my list of things worth killing for.
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