Tactical maneuver or Dweeb trick?

[Beegerite]

Based on what I understand I suspect you're mistaken Verm.  My understanding is that the "guncam film" is nothing more than a recording of everything that came in or out of your FE in a stream.  The player isn't interpreting a film it's just playing back what it originally played through the exact same interface, the game, with a couple of enhancements e.g. the tracers and the multiple positioning feature which are turned off during live play.  I suspect that "film" should show exactly what happened.
Beeg

Originally posted by Vermillion
Actually Dinger its not that simple.

The rate at which the gun cam film records positional updates, and the rate which your FE recieves them online and then interprets thru the smoothing code are different in my experience.

Just like film sometimes doesn't show warping, it commonly won't show stick stirring.

[Dinger]

Well Crash, if it helps, I agree with you -- most stick stirrers just burn E-- but thinking about it, there's probably a "sophisticated" way to game the code; just like you can split-ess to foil an attack or draw the attacker into rolling scissors, you can either "E-burn" stick stir, or do it such that you blow minimal energy.
I haven't done the "Film recorder" test.  My experience is that it records the local plane's position according to its updates to the server, but I'm not sure it restricts the remote updates.

[Hangtime]

I'm already trying to help new folks who are accidentally triggering the stick stirring code simply trying to line up a shot. Sure, the are over-controlling, but we all did that when we started. However, instead of just missing, they are locking up and getting killed.[/i]

Dunno Leph, if they are trippin the stir code in training, better they learn about overcontrolling and its impacts THERE in training.

And, lol.. what are yah teachin 'em.. the finer points of the HO?? How in hell does a guy kill himself while shooting, overcontrolling and tripping the stir code?

henh.. just went online with an FW and yanked and tromped and stirred like a madman.. never tripped the code. How is it yer students can trip that code and I can't? No scaling on my stick.. none at all.

Wierd.

[KaK3]

Originally posted by Tumor



How very gamey of you.  Go back to Quake.

 TUMOR, Bravo for  your sense of sport. Anyone who uses lag or latency or any other failings of net or game to get advantage, rather than just  playing it straight and letting the chips fall where they may, is not a sport, and not worth the honor of a challenge.

KaK3,  loved by all:>)

[faminz]

I understand the posts above re "floppy fish" and also understand that we are playing a computer program that is handraulically coded by a programmer so there will always be limits to what can be done cf realism but just because I happened to read this today and thought it might relate to evasions here tos:
Its from Mike Spicks Luftwaffe Fighter Aces book:

Hartmans "Last Ditch" evasion maneuver
As the enemy fighter approached, Hartman used rudder to point his fighter in a slightly different direction from the way it was going, to mislead the attacker into misjudging the amount of deflection required. When his opponent opened fire, Hartman slammed the stick into the far corner of the cockpit, putting his messerschmitt into the first half of asn outside oblique loop.

sonds like Hartman stirred that stick!!!;)

[pimpjoe]

Originally posted by KaK3
 TUMOR, Bravo for  your sense of sport. Anyone who uses lag or latency or any other failings of net or game to get advantage, rather than just  playing it straight and letting the chips fall where they may, is not a sport, and not worth the honor of a challenge.

kak3 are you telling me that when for that split second before a plane warps when it is suspended in mid air that you dont take a shot because it wouldnt be "fair"? that IS how the chips fall. take every advantage you get...cause you never know when your gonna lose it to a mistake.

i understand that you fly spitfires quite frequently. dont take this the wrong way...im not knocking you or the plane, but your talking about sport and challenges...just curious...how much of a challenge is it to get up in a spitIX and go dogfight with such planes as p47's and 190's?

food for thought