Author Topic: uncalled for (Read 812 times)

CRASH · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2002, 09:37:31 AM »

Must be a full moon or something, I logged into the training arena last night.....first time ever, and some dweeb was spouting all kinds of profanity on the open channel. I took a screen and sent it to ht last night.

CRASH

Apache · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2002, 09:45:41 AM »

This stuff is getting completely out of hand. Its a nightly occurrance now.

As much as I hate to say it, we need sysops. It is a shame we can't police ourselves, but then again, we don't have the tools to do so.

Heck! I'll even volunteer. I don't mind babysitting for a while versus flying. After 15 years as a street cop, babysitting adults who don't know the meaning of reasonable behaviour, I could do it in AH too I think.

Master · « **Reply #17 on:** January 29, 2002, 09:47:20 AM »

this is the sole reason in not going to play this game anylonger. i love the sim its self but the community is poorly lacking! you shouldnt have to squelch 30+ people every time you log on

Dago · « **Reply #18 on:** January 29, 2002, 09:51:56 AM »

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Nothing wrong with that IMO.

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Simple dont shoot chutes and you wont be called a dick

You have to be kidding me! Someone, much less two people are juvenile enough to defend this? And some people try to say they don't see the degradation in the community.

As far as I am concerned, the guy who typed the statement being referenced should have his account terminated so he can go back to playing Quake, at least until he reaches his 14th birthday.

I wonder just what it takes to develop such a little mind that talking like that online seems appropriate to them?

dago

mrsid2 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 29, 2002, 10:06:09 AM »

I shot down rounder several times this morning and he seemed to be ok, no insults or anything like that.

He's new to the game and will probably soon realize that's not wanted here.

Ripsnort: This fobia with bad language and kids.. Does your kid play with other kids out on the yard? Because if he does, he probably knows more bad words than you already. All without reading

You'll have to put earplugs to him or ban yard time if you want to shelter him from the world.

Pyro · « **Reply #20 on:** January 29, 2002, 10:13:46 AM »

Why don't you just send the screenshot to support@hitechcreations.com so we can actually do something about it?

eskimo2 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2002, 10:29:13 AM »

Come to the CT!
All is well.

eskimo

mrsid2 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2002, 10:30:46 AM »

Hey! That was uncalled for!

Dago · « **Reply #23 on:** January 29, 2002, 10:37:09 AM »

No, we cant prevent our kids from being exposed to this kind of language in life, but then again we dont have to just accept it as if it is acceptable.

To participate in a game, or let our children participate in a game where this would be tolerated sends the wrong message to our kids.

It is a great experience to compete against skilled mature persons in this game, using your skills against others in a fun competition, when after a good fight salutes are exchanged. It is a whole differant matter when we must be exposed to this type of nonsense.

I am glad to know that HTC will act when they feel necessary against persons like the one making these comments, but there aren't enough HTC watching and it seems to me they are rarely in the game anymore. Maybe they silently monitor at times and I am not aware of it.

This game does need more monitors. I have offered to monitor too just to receive silence as a responce. I dont think I will be playing AH much longer, for alot of reasons, and this is just another straw on the camels back. I do hope though that Aces High is able to stay a game above the rest of the pack in quality of gaming and in behaviour required of players.

Dago

Vortex · « **Reply #24 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:01:10 AM »

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Originally posted by mrsid2

Ripsnort: This fobia with bad language and kids.. Does your kid play with other kids out on the yard? Because if he does, he probably knows more bad words than you already. All without reading

You'll have to put earplugs to him or ban yard time if you want to shelter him from the world.

I think most would agree that kids are going to learn lots of things as they age. Definitely some of that will be a tad off colour. That's just part of growing up though. Equally a part is learning what is right and wrong, and in this case how one should or should not conduct themselves in a public, or private forum. I know lots of "creative" words and phrases too, however that doesn't mean they should be used anytime or in any environment. To the point, I don't see it as prudent using them in an open forum like AH. THAT'S the message here for younger players...or it should be at least.

Vortex

Wilbus · « **Reply #25 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:05:47 AM »

Ripsnort, not saying I'd want my kid to see such language (I don't have one and I hope I'll never get one) BUT when he gets old enough to understand the meening of it (wich he will learn in School like so many others things from his comrades) he will know a alot more offencive things, take my word for it

You'll be surprised how much kids actually know, kind of scary I think.

No need for the kind of language though and I hate to see it becoming an every day thing in the MA and I only wish the people, no matter age, who are immature enough to say those things will be banned for life.

batdog · « **Reply #26 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:15:30 AM »

You wanna police it...read Pyro's post. He just gave us all the oppertunity. I for one will do so. I enjoy the banter on 1 at times and I understand the need to vent but there are some who are seemly incapable of doing anything other than spouting vulgar verbage over 1. I'd like to them get banned.

xBAT

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:26:22 AM »

all this because someone chooses to fly a Chog?
lazs

Don · « **Reply #28 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:26:35 AM »

Unacceptable. Not so much because of the language; I've heard it before, but because it's damned juvenile and unnecessary.
It also implies a lack of respect for other people in general. If I am in my private life and I say that to someone because I don't like something said or done, I would have to fight that person, no doubt. I fly this sim, I compete with others this is why I do it. It is important not to cross over a line which prompts me to be disrespectful to others.
I think some version of a sysops is needed because there are differing opinions about what is and what is not acceptable behavior. What is needed is more consistency emphasized by standards that are consistently enforced. From what I have seen and read, the players cannot and will not be that consistent about self policing the arenas.

Wanker · « **Reply #29 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:34:37 AM »

I think the real question here is what age of person is this game suitable for?

Those of us with children are responsible for deciding which games are appropriate for our children to participate in. I certainly wouldn't take young children to see an adult film that contains graphic sex, regardless of whether or not they already know about sex from the playground or from a talk with my wife and I. Just because they know about it doesn't mean that they are emotionally or psychologically able to understand it all. Same goes for a film or activity where profanity is used. While it is true that kids learn about profanity at an early age, my goal as a parent is to prevent them from using profanity as a tool to harm other people.

My goals as a parent may be different from yours. But as long as I'm playing this game and HTC values my opinion as a customer, then I'm going to argue that flagrant and continued use of profanity be severely dealt with. I'm not talking about the person who slips and accidently types out "Shit!" once in a while. I'm talking about the people who use profanity as the core of their vocabulary, or use it as a tool to provoke another person.

So getting back to my original question, what age is this game intended for?

I would hope that Aces High doesn't evolve into a game that is appropriate only for adults who can take a lot of verbal abuse. Personally, I would prefer that it remain a family game that can be played and enjoyed by young and old alike.

One thing I still can't understand is how using profanity and trying to insult and hurt someone else's feelings makes for a more enjoyable experience. I simply don't understand that logic and way of thinking.

I wish we could all be friends and give each other salutes after a fight, and gather around and give each other a big Barney hug at the end of the night.