Author Topic: When will the LW get a real Jabo? (Read 890 times)

Sachs · « **on:** January 29, 2002, 05:08:59 PM »

Just curious, we have the F8 but is it really a Jabo? It would be nice to be able to carry a little more ordinance to hit a base. And we all know it carried more then what is listed in AH right now. I am also for adding the attack category to the B-26, Ju-88 and TBM. With the new 110 coming into play it will carry the same ordinance as a F8 so in essence we are not getting a true dedicated jabo. Me-410 would have been a nice addition, (sigh) won't ever happen I am afraid. KI-102 would have been a great choice for a new Jabo IMO. Anyway, frustrated thats all.

ra · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2002, 05:13:20 PM »

"Me-410 would have been a nice addition, (sigh) won't ever happen I am afraid. "

LuftWhiners are now psychic.

ra

Sachs · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2002, 05:17:59 PM »

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Originally posted by ra

LuftWhiners are now psychic.

ra

LOL, best comeback yet. And asking for attack option on allied aircraft seems like a whine to. OMFG a double standard, Tard award goes to you. Next....

Animal · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2002, 05:44:28 PM »

You'll have to fight him for that award...

oboe · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2002, 05:50:05 PM »

The FW190-F8 isn't a bad jabo; it really should have the capability to carry underwing rockets too.

Nath[BDP] · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2002, 06:36:06 PM »

If the F-8 was equipped with the panzerschreck/panzerblitz as well as underwing 2x250kg bombs it would possible be one of the deadliest anti-tank aircraft in AH.

hazed- · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2002, 08:42:16 PM »

me110c4 - 1200 hp engines

2x 250kg bombs

EDIT:just found this bf110c-4/b of 9./zg26 'horst Wessel' based at palermo as early as the end of 1940.Shown carrying two 551lb(250kg) and four 220lb (100kg) bombs.' not much better but something at least.

I really hope HTC hasnt modelled the c4 when even the c7 could at least carry 2,205 lbs, or the 110E-1 which could carry 4,409lbs.

I was really hoping for the me410 myself but i wont say im too dissapointed that we have a new LW plane to try out.But if we get the C4 or earlier we really wont have a role for it will we?

heres a little selection of more favourable me110 variants:

(me110G series 1475hp engines)
me110g2/r1 37mm cannon in place of bombracks
me110g2/r3 2x30mm 2x20mm +2x7.9mm rear facing instead of single

Wotan · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:29:27 PM »

I will fly whatever 110 we get but the lw will never get a jabo thats "on par" with the allies nor should it.

To me it means us lw if we want to fly our planeset and get the most out of it we should work together.

I cant remember the last all lw base attack I've been on.

I remember 190a8 raining 500kgs on vhs fhs and bhs then smacking down the ack and vulchin.

I agree that more options on the f8 even if it means it would become a "hybrid" more folks might fly it but I fly it anyway and its still fun.

Weave · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2002, 11:38:57 PM »

Does a decent jabo have to have serious fire power in regard to guns? I think not. The requirement for a decent jabo would be a good ordance loadout, and stability in a dive.

The LW already has one of the best dive bombers in the plane set. The Ju-88. It packs a better bomb loadout then any of the so-called allied jabo/attack planes. Give it a try, it's even got dive flaps!:D

eddiek · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2002, 12:09:35 AM »

(SIGH).......LW fans clamored for the 190F-8, said it was 190 version of Jabo....now they got it, and it ain't good enough.......(shakes head)
LW has their "real" jabo, at least from the hoopla dished out prior to it's release. Sheesh guys, what does it take to make ya'll happy?

Sachs · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2002, 12:22:11 AM »

A 190F8 with a somewhat decent bombloadout/rocket loadout would suffice IMO. Not asking for a super Jabo just asking for a better loadout that it did carry.

Wotan · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2002, 12:31:08 AM »

jabo = jagdbomber = fighter bomber

whether it dive bombs or not is irrelevant to arguement here.....

the ju88 is and was designed as a bomber whether it could dive bomb or not. Also theres different ju88 models better suited for the ground attack roll. Also the ju88 we have doesn't have an attack option so kills against gvs dont count thats why AG is asking for an attack option for it.

Check AG....err Sachs ak AGJV44 scores in the f8 the last couple of tours.

Last tour he had over 100 kills vrs 20 or so deaths.

We can fly any plane in the lw planeset and get kills. But the point he is making is should the f8 be given some of the loadout options that were available in rl. Or can we expect at some point to get a Jagdbomber better suited for the FIGHTERBOMBER roll.

Buzzbait · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2002, 02:59:02 AM »

S!

It's the 110C-4 so it will go with the rest of the BoB set. A 110G wouldn't fit very well with a 109E-4 or a Hurri I.

Pyro has already said he will do a 'G' model later to go with the '44 8th AAF set of planes we have now.

You will probably get lots of bombs on it then.

StSanta · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2002, 04:22:53 AM »

I'd settle for rockets or 2*250 extra loadout on the F8. That'd give us a jabo that has a kickarse payload.

Fariz · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2002, 04:58:52 AM »

Stuka?