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Offline Drunky

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Anyone notice the numbers dropping???
« on: February 05, 2002, 01:26:13 AM »
Warning:  This is not a troll...that is left up to Laz(x) and his ilk...this is just an expresion (a slightly drunk version) of my thoughts and feelings.  If you are offended/feel ill/get dizzy/have abdominal pains...stop reading and consult a doctor/beer/mother/pacifier as required.

Over the past month I have noticed that the numbers in the MA (main arena) have been dropping.  This is surpising to me especially after the numbers exploded in the last four to six months.  I wish I could say that is because everyone has been moving over to the CT (combat theatre)...btw it isn't.

Anyway, I'm living up to my name (Drunky) but I thought I would point this out along with a few of my thoughts.

I have to wonder though...I've gotten pretty fed up with the community here (not all, mind you, but with a large majority) with the attitudes, arrogances and just petty mindedness.  This is not the AH that I loved, joined and couldn't stay away from even for one day.

I knew that since AW went down we would see an influx of people...not saying that the AW people are responsible.  Perhaps this community wasn't ready for a group to come in and compare AH to an already established flight sim.  Maybe...maybe not...but I did notice that people (on both sides) did not react well.  Notwithstanding.

I'm tired of...I'm bored with....I'm fed up...with disorganization and the chaos that ensues.

I used to relish the fact the my squad (look it up if you care...I'm not name dropping, it's not the point) used to take hour and a half missions with lancs to blow the sh*t out of someone's HQ just to make a difference in the war (at least for a night).  We would thread our way between bases just to make it there...and now, it just don't mean sh*t.  It's not worth it.  Seriously...I looked forward to flying in formation (whether at 20k and at 500 ft) and following our XO as closely as possible in formation because I knew that it made an impact on the game/night/war.

There was a time when we would mention (we were Rooks then) that our squad was OTW to a base (it was rightly assumed we were bombers) that people would respond with not only fighter support but also with mutliple goons.  That type of response has not happened for over a year now.

Those who know me (not many do actually) will know that I really don't care what we are doing as long as we are organized.  And with the exception of a few individuals who command respect when they post missions...well there has not been much of that.   Ripsnort..I have never missed a mission of yours while I was online.

This being said....I would have to say that this is my goodbye.  I will linger probably another month (it's hard to let go) but I have not enjoyed myself as I have in the past.  It would seem that Laz(x) has won.  Whatever AH might have been, has resolved (degenerated) into a perpetual fighter conflict (furball).

Anyway...I will say again...This is not a troll...If I offend you then DO NOT RESPOND...these are only my parting thoughts.

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2002, 01:38:50 AM »
Yes, it does seem very tilted towards the furball right now.  I have not been on as much lately because of that.

I did have a very enjoyable fight with Urchin and another Fw190 in the CT tonight and quite an enjoyable Mossie flight in the MA on Friday, but those things are rarer and rarer.

I would recommend waiting until the next version is released.  Hopefully then things will swing back towards a middle ground and away from Laz' furball playground that the MA is now.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2002, 07:02:37 AM »
Have you tried the CT?

It's definitely got a lot to offer in terms of a more close knit, friendly community atmosphere.  I'm sure there are flyers there who would be willing to organize.   It can be a refreshing break from the MA perennial furball.

Hope you stick around, Drunky.

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2002, 08:11:44 AM »
hiya drunk.....

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2002, 08:22:43 AM »
Geeze... hate to break into this drunken sob fest  and I'm (almost) sorry that you can't get your jollies off mikrunning fields in poorly modeled  fluffs QUITE as easily but....

Who won?   laz (the vapid lazzer guy with the cartoon smiley balloon heads) or laz(x)  who I never heard of or...


The real lazs!  

 Go ahead... beat up your liver and have a good cry on me.   Why hang around for a month?   Wasted time that you could be spending drinking.   Maybe you are hoping that HTC will bring back the ability to "win the war" with ridiculous strat that can be done by a drunk with a mouse and the worst connect imaginable?
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2002, 08:32:45 AM »
hiya drunk.....


I've noticed that 2.....alot of furballin goin on.....I was knight and not alot of org. goin on....but good numbers for that team....squad went rooks to see and try 2 even out the teams...rooks usually have less numbers....but org. is even worse then knights....tried 2 get team to orgnize...but the wasn't 2 fruitful...always people fightin for that damn stupid middle island....with the influx of new people like you said...give em time to learn the maneuvers and get rid of the fast fight(furballin)mentality....they will soon discover other planes need other tactics....alot come from AW where I was....so i know most of em...some I don't wanna know :)....we didn.t have mission planners like AH does...so give it time...or squad is startin to make missions now...took some time(alot of players needed help).
be patient my man...smoke some weed or something.

Here's an ex:  me and a squaddie made a plan to see if rooks would help.....we upped lancasters but in a round-a-bout fashion(meaning the 1st lanc would hit...we'd call out base XX all FH dead VH dead...wait 5 min....of course bish didn't wait to re-supply....so other squaddie came in and called out all FH dead again wait 5 minutes....still no help...we did that 3 times....still no help....rooks where 2 busy with middle island....bish took whole south....) i tried in a couple of diff. approaches with rooks.....not workin good....

just an observation...no whining please

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2002, 08:59:18 AM »
Wow, I never saw that coming lazs.

Waiting for 1.09 is getting tougher by the day, I log in and log out just so I can remember the sequence.

The unfortunate or fortunate, depending on what you look for in a game, thing here Drunky is that people like our resident voice of reason and calm reflection on how Aces High should be played are paying the bills at HTC.

The CT offered an alternative but the clamorers for historical matchups and more reality, including me, have stayed away in droves until it was recently switched to a more MA style of play.

I think HTC would survive the loss if every strat player cancelled their account this day and we would not be missed and they could stop wasting the resources they are putting into the CT arena, move all the fields within 1 mile of one another and all go out and buy a Rolls and some beer and rake in the bucks.

Drunky, if you need a diversion  till 1.09 gets here go out and buy IL2 and jump into Hyperlobby.

The fields are a couple miles apart and there are never 200 guys in the same grid so lazs need not apply but it plays solid and is great for coordinated low level attacks and for super dogfighters willing to spend a few minutes climbing.

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2002, 09:14:08 AM »
well i can say iv seen this comeing as i feel most the way you do
  I am aslo waiting for 1.9 to show up . I also have not been on much because of the feeling that peaple have Quit working togeather to make it fun & enteresting for me also . I shur miss the old days when  we did. Future for me here is also uncertin
the days when you could not wait to get in and fly is not here anymore ..tho i love the TOD i seem to have more fun there then in the main these days .



  sunchaser ill see ya in IL-2  ( just need to meet up there sometime soon )
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2002, 09:33:34 AM »
catering to the laz types definately keeps me (and my money) away.

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2002, 09:52:30 AM »
TOD  and Squad Night are all I play for now, too.

It's impossible to do anything strategic without the backing of a large squad now. So outside of Squad night, and TOD, there's really no sense in logging on for me either.

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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2002, 10:01:05 AM »
The Main Arena is wearing thin on the squad I'm on.  

(That and the porked goons re-upping what a squadron of B-17s have dropped.  That's just an utter slap-in-the-face to anyone who bothers to fly a buff to altitude, 20 minutes to target and bomb.)  

We had another guy quit in disgust last night.  He was weary of the endless furballing as you guys mention and canned his account.  While I'm annoyed with the evolution of the Main Arena, I'm still here.  I'm more interested in seeing how they will improve the situation rather than stomping out in disgust.  Quiting, gentleman, is too easy.  :)

I decided last night to drop out of the squad I am in (416th RCAF).  Its a squad of 6 and 3 had moved on to IL-2.  The rest were seldom on at the time I flew (late Eastern US time).  I enjoy flying with the guys (hilarious bunch), but why belong to a group that's not on when you are 99% of the time?

So, I'm looking for a new squad to join.  One that loves buffs :)

I played in the CT last night, had a good time.  Main Arena lag was pretty intense for me, so I joined Hazed on some suicide Luftwaffle raids instead  :)

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2002, 10:11:46 AM »
for the record ...

I didn't quit... just stopped paying :)
when/if things improve I'll start paying again.

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2002, 10:48:07 AM »
BD5-

I've seen your style of play, and would love to get you into our squad. Now I'm hardly the recruitment officer. Actually, I'm only a first Lt.

You may want to  consider the 2nd Marine Air Wing. We are 1 of 3 Squads that make up MAW. 1st MAW is Air superiority, CAP, escort. Second MAW is Bombers and Goons. And we just added 3rd MAW which I believe is JABO.

We participate actively in TOD, and our squad Nights are Tuesday begginning at 9pm EST and running until the wee hours, and Saturday, 10pm EST. We are quite are large group, 50+ pilot now, I think.  I know your an experienced bomber pilot, and as long as you meet the age requirement, I'm Sure Prop, (2nd MAW CO) would love to get you in. Here's the webpage:

http://www.marineairwingah.homestead.com/HomePage.html

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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2002, 10:53:59 AM »
I am not a fan of the MA at all. I love the CT, but I don't even fly there that often. I am short of time to play at all. When I do find a little time, I am too rusty to live long in the MA environment and the CT is usually empty. So, I end up in HtH or just playing around offline.

Despite my lack of time and inability to enjoy the paid arenas, I keep paying. It kind of makes up for all those months when I played HtH every night, but I couldn't afford the $30 per month. I found the $15 per month affordable even for me as a poor starving college student.

I find this a reasonable investment to continue development of my absolute favorite flight sim/game. I want to see a full planeset and continued expansion in the land and sea warfare areas until Aces High becomes "the mother of all sims". I am willing to keep contributing my funds as long as I can afford it and HTC frequently releases new revisions with significant improvements.

Is there anyone else like me that doesn't play in the MA or CT that much but still pay? Declining numbers may not mean a decline in paid accounts, it may just mean a decline in the number of people logged in at any one time. I hope HTC continues to increase their revenues since that will ensure they will continue improving Aces High. I would hate for HTC to end up following in the footsteps of those other online sims that are dead or dying.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2002, 11:05:22 AM »
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BD5-

I've seen your style of play, and would love to get you into our squad. Now I'm hardly the recruitment officer. Actually, I'm only a first Lt.

You may want to  consider the 2nd Marine Air Wing. We are 1 of 3 Squads that make up MAW. 1st MAW is Air superiority, CAP, escort. Second MAW is Bombers and Goons. And we just added 3rd MAW which I believe is JABO.

We participate actively in TOD, and our squad Nights are Tuesday begginning at 9pm EST and running until the wee hours, and Saturday, 10pm EST. We are quite are large group, 50+ pilot now, I think.  I know your an experienced bomber pilot, and as long as you meet the age requirement, I'm Sure Prop, (2nd MAW CO) would love to get you in. Here's the webpage:

http://www.marineairwingah.homestead.com/HomePage.html


Age requirement

Do I gotta get a haircut ? :D

Checking your website out now....thanks for the offer.