Author Topic: Perk the spit 9 (Read 999 times)

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #30 on:** February 07, 2002, 03:30:06 PM »

Lephturn, as usual you post without even knowing what the other posters mean, and considering, by default that they are wrong and they need to demostrate something to you.
What about you trying to demostrate that this is false?

The antiG device is just a way to indicate that these planes are almost more time in total blackout that seeing the light.

Your considerations about SpitIX being not the best at any category are so vage that simply mean nothing at all. Does that means that Spit is not tbe best overal fighter in AH? To be the best overal fighter you need to be at least the best in a single category?

Kieran · « **Reply #31 on:** February 07, 2002, 03:52:03 PM »

This topic went well over 200 posts the last time, ooooohhh, about a month ago. Let's see if it has the staying power to do it again.

Of course, it is as silly a request now as it was then. Don't let that stop you. Fact is, if you are getting pounded by any Spits it's your own dumb fault. And, if your stats are not indicative of being pounded by Spits, why in the world argue against them? Because you see them? Pfft. Lots more targets.

I took the A5 challenge- and I find it much easier to kill and live in an A5 than I ever did in a Spit. My personal observation, of course.

FWIW Man, do you suppose Leph was referring to your "IMO, it has also some kind of anti-G ultrasecret device." comment? I too would like to see you back that up.

rosco · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2002, 03:58:38 PM »

OMG what an obvious troll and all the luftwhiners falling head over heels for it. LOL at the lot of you.

funkedup · « **Reply #33 on:** February 07, 2002, 04:02:56 PM »

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Perk the Spit 9

It's perked. In the Combat Theatre.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2002, 04:53:54 PM »

Can u read Kieran? Then read my previous post.

AKEagle+ · « **Reply #35 on:** February 07, 2002, 05:08:56 PM »

The Spit had close to a 1:1 K/D in the MA last tour, slightly less than 1:1 but close.

Perk a plane that barely gives as good as it gets?

I think they should perk the Ostwind myself, I hate getting shot by one, maybe 300 perkpoints for the puppy?

OK, OK, 350 points.

AKEagle+

Kieran · « **Reply #36 on:** February 07, 2002, 05:20:04 PM »

It's the same song and dance. Fly a Spit, I'll fly a Zeke, and I'll eat your lunch if you try to turn horizontally.

Fly a Spit, I'll fly an FW (any of them). When I get tired of playing with you I'll leave.

Fly a Spit, I'll fly the Stang. Short of going for hopeless HOs, you aren't going to be in guns range.

Fly a Spit, I'll take a 109G-6 or G-10. I'll either climb or run when the trouble begins. Otherwise, I'll take passes and snaps of opportunity.

Fly a Spit, I'll take a Nikki. These are pretty much equal, so you might win this one if I don't run.

Fly a Spit, I'll take an La anything. You'll never get a shot at me, and I can make passes at you forever.

Fly a Spit, I'll take a Yak. Down low you have to catch me to hurt me, yet I can turn long enough to give you headaches.

Fly a Spit, I'll fly a P-47. I'll HO if you wanna, otherwise you're just gonna see my tail from D2.

Fly a Spit, I'll fly a Typh. Same as P-47.

Repeat for Corsair, and to some extent, the F6F.

It isn't the kind of ride that inspires such terror that an opponent should just jump when faced with one, is it?

You're twisting in the breeze, tapping on every possible way to get the Spit perked, yet unfailingly you fall short of justification. Might as well drop the "uber Spit" tact because it just doesn't have any basis in fact. (Sounded like Johnny Cochrane there, didn't I?)

Kweassa · « **Reply #37 on:** February 07, 2002, 05:22:50 PM »

"I took the A5 challenge- and I find it much easier to kill and live in an A5 than I ever did in a Spit. My personal observation, of course. "

That's pretty amazing Kier, cuz' once anybody is inside a plane like 190,
they all becareful. It's easy to live in. But I simply don't get a clue
how they can be 'easier to kill' in.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #38 on:** February 07, 2002, 05:31:33 PM »

Kieran, fly whatever you want, the Spit will be ignoring you until you aproach, then point&click, if fails and you extend, ignore mode again, and so on. I'll be expending much less E pointing at u this way than u trying to readquire me.

And, surviving?? Who is talking about surviving? Pickup whatever you want, climb to 30k and you will survive all the time. At least me am talking about killing, not surviving.

Fatty · « **Reply #39 on:** February 07, 2002, 05:42:38 PM »

You're flying with the mouse? No wonder spits are kicking your ass.

vatiAH · « **Reply #40 on:** February 07, 2002, 06:01:10 PM »

mandoble,

You shot down 92 spits and was killed 7 times by them. Thats a 13:1 K/D You shot down 11 zero's and was killed by 4 of them. Thats a 2.75:1 K/D against the Zero. I suggest you start a"Perk the Zero" thread... you just might have a squeak with that one.

Vati

Lephturn · « **Reply #41 on:** February 07, 2002, 06:11:46 PM »

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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
Lephturn, as usual you post without even knowing what the other posters mean, and considering, by default that they are wrong and they need to demostrate something to you.
What about you trying to demostrate that this is false?

Because if I did, I'd do nothing else but test to "disprove" your ridiculous whine of the week. Fact is, if you think something is broken and want it fix, test it and post the data. If it's wrong HTC will take a look at it. If you don't do that, you are just whining. Again. Big surprise.

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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
The antiG device is just a way to indicate that these planes are almost more time in total blackout that seeing the light.

Your considerations about SpitIX being not the best at any category are so vage that simply mean nothing at all. Does that means that Spit is not tbe best overal fighter in AH? To be the best overal fighter you need to be at least the best in a single category?

That's not vague at all, it's pretty accurate I think. I'm not going to bother arguing with you further, since you repeatedly have demonstrated that you will ignore actual evidence and continue whining as usual.

I think Fatty nailed it though. Heh.

Lephturn

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #42 on:** February 07, 2002, 06:30:30 PM »

1 - I'm not arguing to perk the spit due its performance, but cause its overusage.
2 - All of you thinking spits (V or IX) are mediocre planes just because they are "slow" are simply wrong.
3 - Is something clearly wrong now? It seems so, at least roll rate, ammo counters and probably hi alt performance, did that supposedly 1942 spit have 2 50"?

And now, you genious, tell me how to test spit performance? Just testing max speed at some alts? substained climb? roll rate? all of these alone? How do you test E retention? Is a blacking out pilot over&over a fault of the plane?

And now, as you, I'm not going to argue with you further, no interest at all. I have more than enough engangements with spits to know exactly what can and what cant do that plane.

vatiAH, for sure I'll not argue to perk anything just because that plane has killed me even a zillion of times. As you can see with my results against spits, nothing better for my K/D to keep these planes unperked and to have the MA full of them.

Kieran · « **Reply #43 on:** February 07, 2002, 06:41:00 PM »

Hmmmm. My kills per time are higher in the A5 than in Spits. Hmmmm. That's me alone, I guess.

I may sound like a person with a pro-Spit leaning, but the facts are quite the opposite; I seldom fly it. I just don't find it fun, and I don't enjoy everyone and their brother running away from me just when I have the advantage. I can't even begin to imagine perking it.

Got any kills per time stats to compare? Not that exaggerated "any newbie can jump into a furball and get 3-kills per sortie" nonsense either, 'cause as has already be pointed out (by Leviathan) the Spit doesn't carry a 3:1 K/d.

Urchin · « **Reply #44 on:** February 07, 2002, 07:45:46 PM »

Jesus... this was old a long time ago guys. The Spitfire is a decent plane. It isn't a great one, not even close in my opinion. It is a very nice plane to learn the game and flight envelope in, for a flight sim newbie or someone that is new to Aces High in particular. There will always be a 'favorite plane'. I'm quite happy that the favorite plane is the Spitfire- just about everything I fly can outrun them, so I hardly ever get killed by them. Plus at least the Spitfire was a common plane in WW2, as opposed to the N1K2 George, which was marginal at best. The La7 may have been very prominant on the Eastern Front, but for me as a Westerner the Spitfire will always have a place of honor in WW2. Hell, I think we need a BETTER Spitfire to be honest, even if it means some of my slower rides will become even more marginally useful in the MA.

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