Author Topic: Perk the spit 9 (Read 936 times)

-Concho- · « **Reply #45 on:** February 07, 2002, 10:16:54 PM »

I've run down a P51 D in a Spit V... I had 15k of alt on him.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #46 on:** February 07, 2002, 11:31:34 PM »

To be honest - I have noticed some REALLY fast spits. There were a few times over the past week when I couldnt get away from them (51B/D, 109G10, Yak9U). Regardless - the Spitfire MkIX is a great plane and not as "newbie" as most think - a good pilot will notice than turnfighting is NOT its strength rather quickly.

I dont think it should be perked... now when they give us the Spitfire Mk XIV, that BETTER be perked.

Mazz/Mike
<-TFC->

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #47 on:** February 07, 2002, 11:52:06 PM »

"Fast" is always a matter of relative E states. If you're just taking off in a 262, you're going to be slower than even the slowest plane in AH. If you're in a P-51 15k below a Spit V who dives and takes a lead course on you... you're not going to get away. Period.

So all this talk of "super fast" Spits seems to me silly. Just about any plane with a relative E advantage can appear faster than its adversary. As well, people underestimate just how fast some planes can go, especially when the pilots intentionally horde or hide energy.

In addition, the notion of some "anti-G" device sends me into hysterics. When I viewed some of my films earlier tonight, I noticed that I rarely exceed 4Gs in most manuevers. The high G stuff tends to be for very short durations, certainly not enough to matter with Mandoble's cure-all pilot fatigue solution. Oddly enough, I also almost never black out in the Spit V... there's no need to if you exercise proper stick control.

In other words, Mandoble, you're (yet again) full of crap. It doesn't surprise me that you have to ask how to properly test various aircraft, as it's abundantly clear that you've never scientifically assessed anything in Aces High.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Nath[BDP] · « **Reply #48 on:** February 07, 2002, 11:58:26 PM »

omg owned

Xjazz · « **Reply #49 on:** February 08, 2002, 12:14:22 AM »

Lets perk'em all!

Spit IX 5 perks
Spit V 2 perks
Seafire You get 2 perks if you fly it

ok?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #50 on:** February 08, 2002, 12:56:31 AM »

Give it a rest, Spits are no problem.....

Grizzly · « **Reply #51 on:** February 08, 2002, 01:35:15 AM »

Such sillyness, but I can't resist joining in. One would suspect that if a Spit gained the opinion of many as the single best all around fighter of WW2, it would be good in AH also. Some like the P51 (you won't see a Spit escorting a bomber over Berlin), but a P51 was designed for that type of application. But I think you see the Spit disproportionally shine in AH because the type of fighting it did so well is the type of fighting we see in the MA.

Few are the planes that the Spit can out run. But if it is higher, it has a small margin of opportunity in which dive and catch a faster plane. If it can't get within guns range of a departing foe before the foe can gain top speed, it's a lost cause.

But I must wonder about some pilots, for if I can get within 1000 yards of a clearly faster plane, often they will begin evasive moves. I suspect the plane didn't make that decision. Sometimes I will fire if I can get within 700 yards hoping for a ping to cause him to turn or zoom. How anyone can seriously claim a Spit is too fast boggles my mind.

Grizzly · « **Reply #52 on:** February 08, 2002, 01:39:41 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Give it a rest, Spits are no problem.....

I shudder to contemplate the whines when HTC brings out the Ki84! =o[

K West · « **Reply #53 on:** February 08, 2002, 08:05:47 AM »

While Vati deftly takes this one out from his perch on the grassy knoll

we begin to contemplate the next obsession.

lol Grizzly, you and me both. And with that we'll mark the auspicious beginning of the KI-84 nightmares. Oy!

Westy

majic · « **Reply #54 on:** February 08, 2002, 08:53:28 AM »

"Sometimes I will fire if I can get within 700 yards hoping for a ping to cause him to turn or zoom. "

You'd be surprised how often just putting a few shots across their bow will make the "speedy" plane burn all their E. I'ts fun.

Am0n · « **Reply #55 on:** February 08, 2002, 09:09:30 AM »

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"You'd be surprised how often just putting a few shots across their bow will make the "speedy" plane burn all their E. I'ts fun."

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they had better mauever and blow some E or they will die to the spray and prey spit from 800-900 out. Happens all the time even in the supposedly highly armored p47.

i dont understand why hispannos hit with such deadly power at this range. or even more so why the are so accurate at this range.

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Theres plenty of AC that can out fly the SpitIX though. i'll take a zero vrs spitIX any day. For some reason a good ammount of the pilots in AH try to out-turn everything while driving a spitix, which in this case is a horrible idea (or a good idea from my POV

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The only thing that really bothers me about the spitIX is its sheer overwhelming numbers in the MA, not the quality of pilots or proformance. When in great numbers, there "just above average proformance in every area" becomes a much greater threat.

majic · « **Reply #56 on:** February 08, 2002, 09:24:01 AM »

I imagine some people do try for kills that far out... but I can't bring myself to waste ammo like that. Just a few tracers for them to see...

Nifty · « **Reply #57 on:** February 08, 2002, 11:10:27 AM »

leviathn, by blackout, you mean full blackout, right? I tunnel vision a lot in just about every plane I fly, tho rarely do I go full blackout.

as for the long range shots... the hitting power of the Hispano is amazing at that distance. but if you fly straight and level, 0.50s will be falling on you from that range too. I've even had a Yak smack me with that 37mm from pretty long range in a Snapshot event.

Anyways, use it to your advantage. slight course corrections here and there will spoil 95% of your spray n prays. Just don't go from side to side at regular intervals, smart ones will figure that out.

And perk the spit because of it's usage? ok. Perk the Spit IX. the Spit V will jump up to CHog levels immediately. Those 30,000 kills per tour in the Spit IX will go to the Spit V, who's already got 20,000. (ok, some might go to the other planes, but why would they? the Spit V is just a little weaker in the power dept, but turns better). Oops, now we gotta perk the Spit V (LOL!!!). Well, now N1K2 gets all the attention!! Dang, perk it. Then the P51D... Then the La7... and La5... hmm... it'd never end!

Silat · « **Reply #58 on:** February 08, 2002, 11:44:50 AM »

What kinda name is "leviathn" anyway?? :}:} I know for a fact the he is a big fat cheater everytime he kills me in his spit5. But if I kill him, then he wasnt cheating. :}

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #59 on:** February 08, 2002, 11:49:59 AM »

A dynamic perk system based on usage would do the trick. Now SpitIX is perked hi, six hours later SpitV is perked too and prize of SpitIX has lowered a bit, 4 hours later SpitIX is unperked, or its prize has gone as low as 1 perk point, and so on.

You may mark some planes as "always" perk planes, and some others that may get into or get out perk zone dynamically.