Author Topic: Give Bombers More Incentive (Read 1017 times)

texace · « **Reply #45 on:** February 11, 2002, 11:31:50 AM »

Actually, I don't think lazs has a problem with the buffs...he's got a problem with strat of fields. He says that bombers affect his style of play...but his last post dug through the layers of roadkill. If HTC made it to where fighters couldn't be disabled, as to simulate revertment, he'd be happy. Am I right? That's all you guys want...is to nullify the bombers so they can't affect the FH and basically force them to strat roles?

Oh, BTW...please quit using the names and colors...because it's not necesary...we get the point you don't like em...no need to highlight the fact...

gavor · « **Reply #46 on:** February 11, 2002, 04:45:59 PM »

lazs,

Whats with the verbal attack? Since when did voicing an opinion warrant personal abuse?

zipity · « **Reply #47 on:** February 11, 2002, 10:00:39 PM »

|Surely you have noticed that bombers drop bombs with totally |unrealistic pin-point accuracy. Bombers can hit targets in Aces |High (CVs, individual hangers, etc...) that they would not have a |prayer of hitting in real life. Real heavy bombers were lucky to |get a strike within a few hundred yards of the aiming point.

|If bombers had realistic bomb accuracy then I doubt many would |complain about them, not least of all because nobody would be |likely to fly them. Other elements of the game are clearly |simulation but bombers are so unrealistic they are simply.... fluff.

Hooligan,

I absolutely agree with your first paragraph, but disagree with the second. Tweek the guns on the bomber, adjust the accuracy of the bombs and you'll still find plenty of buff pilots who will want to refine their skills. The problem I have with some folks is they don't want to better the game, they simply want to limit it. Turn it from a WWII sim into strictly an ACM game. Most of the folks posting in these forums are really attempting to better the game for all of us, unfortunately a few others find it too challenging to do anything but resort to name calling and personal attacks and that doesn't fix anything.

a quick response to someone elses remarks, your right, airfields during WWII weren't shut down by destroying the hangers, but many were shut down when jabo and bomber attacks destroyed all the planes at that field. (check out the history channel - story of the p47).

salute,
Zip

Hooligan · « **Reply #48 on:** February 11, 2002, 11:48:55 PM »

If you "adjust" the accuracy of the bombs to realistic levels then this will mean that about half of the bombs will hit within 800 yards of the target. There is nothing in the MA that is big enough for the bombers to aim at with a prayer of hitting.

Hooligan

lazs2 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 12, 2002, 08:33:16 AM »

gavor.. I was voicing MY opinion. No need to get upset.
lazs

gavor · « **Reply #50 on:** February 12, 2002, 04:50:08 PM »

Most ppl get upset when someone says,

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and lack of any original thought on your own part label you as an easily amused, dishonest moron, toady

Thats not an honest opinion, thats a childish character attack. If you can't understand the distinction maybe you should take some lessons in social behaviour.

FTJR · « **Reply #51 on:** February 13, 2002, 04:00:35 AM »

obviously this is close to a nerve.

but how about when you hit a single fighter hangar out of a total of 3, say, that you reduce the amount of fighters available at that field by 30 %

lazs2 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 13, 2002, 08:15:34 AM »

Well... I would say that it is more than mere opinion actually. You tend to attack by praising others who attack but... you choose some of the least imaginative and least amusing examples without any real content of your own. This would indicate that you lacked a sense of humor and that you were not too bright. Not to mention that you lacked courage. (huh huh good one jethro!). You want to attack? That's fine but do it on your own, grow some skin or don't bother. But don't cry when you get bit.

FTJR... I think what most fighter guys hate is the "drop hangers make field useless so that there are no fights for several secrtors" syndrome and the fact that it is so easy to do so. Fuel is never 0%... Allow fighters to launch till the field is completely closed. That would make it a joint effort with fighter cover to capture a field. I would also say that it wouldn't hurt to make the fields a little easier to capture. Move things along a little.
lazs

Wutz · « **Reply #53 on:** February 13, 2002, 08:56:51 AM »

I agree with the reward for landing a bomber. It is a real living H**L surviving a bombrun and landing your 1 enging Lanc, without rudder, gear nor flaps. Give the bomber x8 if they land it. And please turn of the Laser-Guided Bomb:D

In My Humble oppinion

eskimo2 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 13, 2002, 09:02:19 AM »

Ah yes,
Just like working with those six-year-old minds that I miss so much!
OK, we'll just have to go over things several times until you get it.
Now read it with me nice and slow...

All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.

You see Lazshole, fields can be closed. It takes a lot of ordinance to close a field for fighters, bombers or Gvs. What you want is already in place! Woo Hoo!
Now let's go over it again;

All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Again;
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.

Now Lazshole,
It works the same way for bombers.
So read it with me nice and slow...

All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
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All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
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All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
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All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
Again;
All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
Again;
All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
Again;
All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
Again;
All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
Again;
All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
Again;
All Bomber Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for bombers.
Again;

OK Lazshole,
It works the same way for ground vehicles.
So read it with me nice and slow...

Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.
Again;
Destroy the Vehicle Hanger, and the field is closed for vehicles.

Now Lazshole,
Go over this everyday until you think you understand it.

(Bangs his head on the table, "These special Ed kids are wearin me out!"

Eskimo

VWE001 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 13, 2002, 09:12:11 AM »

You know laz this game has more options than just fur ballin. I enjoy all aspects of this game, from dog fightin to bomb runs to tank battles to PT'in. There is just about something for everyone, so why not point out the positive things not just the negative things. If you were not havin any fun in the MA then you would have been gone lone ago. If all you care about is one aspect of this game, furballin, then how about going and buyin a copy of Combat Flight sim 2 and join a squad so ya'll can hookup 1 or 2 nights a week and dog fight other squads. Better yet, I've got a copy I'll give you! E-mail me your addy and I'll have it in the mail today. Or, now here is a stretch, try playing all aspects of the game before complaining about certain aspects you don't agree with.

lazs2 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 13, 2002, 02:44:02 PM »

ya gotta learn to take things a little less seriously my little blubber eating buddie. Learning to read and comprehend wouldn't hurt either. I am suggesting that perhaps a lone suicide .fluff lazer bombing a couple of leantoo's is not really conducive to good gameplay. Bet the kids got a kick out of you frothing at the mouth and banging yur head on the table while repeating yourself over and over eh? I know I do... thanks, damn near as good as intelligent debate.

vwe... whatever.. As I have explained many times... I don't really care what others do in the game unless.... it affects me in a lopsided manner. Lone suicide bombing creates a lopsided effect on gameplay. For the amount of effort required, one guy can spoil dozens of other players gameplay. He should either have to work harder and/or it should take more players of his ilk to do so if... that is what he wants to do. This thread is about a skilless, unrealistic act of bombing not being "rewarded" enough. I want it either rewarded less or, better yet, not possible. I believe that my view makes more sense in light of the weight of evidence. It is my opinion that it will probly go that way in any case.

lazs
the "lazshole"
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
"Oh look a lone b17 over the field droping the fighter hangers.. what a surprise."

eskimo2 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 13, 2002, 03:21:00 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Allow fighters to launch till the field is completely closed.
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Lazshole, looks like we gotta go over this again,
All Fighter Hangers destroyed, means the field is closed, for fighters.
Read it again and again until you got it.

BTW Lazshole,
As a teacher, I only had to go over things again and again with the retarded kids. Don't worry though, you will get it some day. Comprehension is especially hard for you tards.

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Originally posted by lazs2
"Oh look a lone b17 over the field dropping the fighter hangers.. what a surprise."

Great quote by Lazshole the buff expert.
Lazshole, a lone B-17 can shut down a couple of fighter hangers, but not all of them, and not fighter opps at one field.

eskimo

Otto · « **Reply #58 on:** February 13, 2002, 03:54:57 PM »

Air Launch heavy buffs at 15K from rear fields.

gavor · « **Reply #59 on:** February 13, 2002, 05:30:38 PM »

Nice attempt lazs. Why not try your baiting on someone of a similar mental age to yourself. Try my 4 year old.