Author Topic: Ultimate bombers (Read 541 times)

Alpo · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2002, 07:41:38 AM »

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Originally posted by mrsid2
IRL buffs didn't go up there alone, drop 4-5 top-of-the-line fighters and return home after dropping their bombs. Here they do.

What arena you flying in??? I very rarely see these "uber-alt" buffs (30K+). Let alone seeing them get 4-5 kills of "top-of-the-line" fighters.

I agree that they didn't go up there alone (IRL)... however, the arena being what it is, any type of mission will get strung out as people get shot down and simply re-up. A nice formation of B17s will eventually break down into a long string of loners.

I'm also not arguing the performance issues... (I never understood those silly charts or cared to try) Yes, most of the fighters perform like crap at the 30K+ range and if you end up in a tail chase on a buff, you are gonna die.

Sure... the occasional deep strike will climb to those alts but once again, those are the 1.5+ hour flights and if the pilot wants to put in that kind of time, he is welcome to it

bigUC · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2002, 07:58:44 AM »

all the pilot has to do is to hit Alt-X, go and have supper or whatever and return to a 30k buff.

I find that nothing gets my bowel-movement going in the bathroom like having a buff autoclimb and at excessive alt when i return.

Wilbus · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2002, 05:07:27 PM »

Forgot Spit 9, best high alt fighter in the game, not the fastest, but the best. Although a buff beats and cealing of the lanc is not 22k in AH, in fact, saw one at 27k and one at 25k last night. Seen them above 30k aswell.

ergRTC · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2002, 05:22:01 PM »

strange wilbus. I just follow the charts, if they are not right then I could imagine it. Lanc is supposed to have zero climb after 24k

minus · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2002, 05:22:17 PM »

tonight got creazy time in 262 when tryed to shot down a lancaster at 34 K was not able to get above him and speed up

lancaster just turned away without any speed lose if i tryed in 262 i faled 5 k below wasted 100 % of fuel to get aproach and no way , filmed the alll crap and wonder what keep that buuf in air when bank wings at 45 degre ?????

got him final when hi run out from fuel and tryed to glide home with 450 tas speed !!

mrsid2 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2002, 05:28:01 PM »

So it means that (like we all alreaydy know) buffs do not follow the charts or laws of physics.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2002, 05:28:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Alpo

What arena you flying in??? I very rarely see these "uber-alt" buffs (30K+). Let alone seeing them get 4-5 kills of "top-of-the-line" fighters.

Last night on the Uterus map I intercepted 4 Lancs who were off the map to the south near our HQ. The lowest one was at 28k. I

ergRTC · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2002, 06:25:42 PM »

Dude, if you have film of that you should send it to htc. that is not right!

Raubvogel · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2002, 06:54:07 PM »

Actually I took screenshots of the first one I found. It shows my altimeter reading 31k and the Lanc about 5k away and level.

Wilbus · « **Reply #24 on:** February 22, 2002, 04:03:24 AM »

ergRTC, charts don't allways show all although they are from AH it self.

All speeds and climb speed are with 100% fuel in all planes, all a lanc or a B17 needs is 25% fuel to get to 30k, to target and get back, if he'd had any fuel problems otw back just cut engines or fly on econmy settings.

With 100% fuel and full load the lanc won't get high at all but the way it and most other buffs are flown in AH, it will.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #25 on:** February 22, 2002, 04:11:43 AM »

The simple fact is and has always been that the guys at HTC don't know how or don't care to program bombers and GVs in any sensible, realistic, accurate, or mueaningful way. AH is a fighter game, pure and simple. Everything else is pointless.

Alpo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 22, 2002, 07:32:32 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
AH is a fighter game, pure and simple. Everything else is pointless.

I can only hope that HTC does NOT share this point of view and will honestly attempt to correct the problems. IF the performance charts are correct (I just hate knee-jerk fixes... saw enough of that crap in a recently flushed flight sim)

Fly WHAT you like, fly HOW you like, and SQUELCH the bastiche that complains!