Author Topic: Why does the 262 have the DM of a glass bottle? (Read 572 times)

Urchin · « **on:** February 17, 2002, 12:17:10 AM »

There is no way in HELL the plane was that fragile in real life.

I've been shot down 3 times in the 262- by a grand total of about 10 whoopee .50 caliber bullets. Why is the plane so fragile? Is it just a perk point sink? Something to fly around in until a strong gust of wind knocks off a half a wing, or a rain drop gets sucked through both of your engines?

The plane is useless as is. You can't fight fighters in it, you can't attack bombers in it (unless you are REAL fond of dying), all you can do is cruise around at 500 mph and look for AFK climbers. How fun.

Qnm · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2002, 01:48:49 AM »

Are you kidding?
Just venting then?

SOB · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2002, 02:02:15 AM »

To paraphrase:

I was shot down in the 262 three times, therefor it is undermodeled.

Urchin

Qnm · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2002, 03:30:00 AM »

It is not 200 perks wasted.

fdiron · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2002, 04:22:11 AM »

262 isnt much fun. Your icon gives you away, so everyone is chasing you. Hard to sneak up on anyone. Bombers especially give the 262 alot of trouble due to the fact that the 262s guns are inaccurate at long ranges. I was flying along in a 262 one day, and I got a bit too close to the enemy fleet. I pulled up about 9.5k and headed away from fleet when a piece of Flak set my plane on fire. That sucked.

MadBirdCZ · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2002, 05:07:41 AM »

From my point of view there's nothing wrong with the 262. If you watch your speed in dive and you don't try to turnfight with fighters (or you can fight fighters but you have to watch your E very carefuly then) then the plane is a devil himself.... There is nothing that can survive even the sortest burst from those 30mm. I don't know how much you fly this plane, I do it when I have the right 'mood' (eg. I get pissed by the hordes gangbanging me all the time). Then I get into 262 grab alt over those suckers, kill one or two of them and drag th rest to Hawaii

Of course durability of P-38 would be nice but Im not complaining because I have no problem with the DM as it is now. BTW i lost about 3 262s so far (1 I left hanging on the tree while takeoff the same day they were introduced

)

Edit:
When I left it on the tree I was taking off with Orel. So he went on alone and got 3 kills during that sortie.

mrsid2 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2002, 05:20:35 AM »

I find fighters no problem with 262, although chasing them gets boring since you have to sneak up on them and fire at 200 yards max.

I tried attacking a B17 at 20k in it, result was I lost an aileron on my first pass without even getting a chance to shoot back..

Second run I chased the B17 a good while before I caught him, picked up a good speed and tried to manouver so that he would be forced to change gunning positions..

When I got inside 700yards he started pinging me, I was doing about 550mph and his .50 removed a part every time they hit me.

I was missing my right engine, aileron, flap and one cannon after I passed the B17, again without even a chance to fire because I had to manouver hard not to get totally wasted by the gunner.

I was shot up and rtb:d, B17 flew home.

Reminds me of the time when I was in b17 and shot up two 262's and a 152 attacking me simultaneously. I didn't get a scratch but they all died. 152 and 262 gave credit and the second 262 managed to land it without engine.. They simply had no chance of getting close enough to hit with those 30mm

Angus · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2002, 06:24:50 AM »

In my first and only flight in the 262, I got shot down by a low Spitfire at 1.4K. I decided to fly it no more and save my perks for another ride.
I agree with the perk system, but I think the planes are too pricy, like 200-300%. with 200 perks of blood sweat and tears invested in a 262, there are not many that will approach a buff. BTW, my only victory in it was a C47:D

Gunthr · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2002, 06:39:02 AM »

I wish the 262 would reward you with more perkies for kills.
0.0037 pts for risking your 200 doesn't get it.

Its priced as if other planes just fold up in its presence, when actually, its tough to get kills. Flying the jet has got to be one of the most hazardous occupations in AH.

More perkies for kills!

JoeCrip · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2002, 08:28:08 AM »

262 is kinda useless. You cant fight fighters at all. Every time I bounce a fighter, they just turn away. The only time i can kill a fighter is if he is afk. Due to the aiming system of buff's guns, it's sucidal to attck a buff. I think it should be lowered to 100 perks,

FDutchmn · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2002, 08:37:25 AM »

If I recall correctly, on AirWarrior, the Me262 had durability rating next to the Zeke!

FDutchmn · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2002, 08:39:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
I wish the 262 would reward you with more perkies for kills.
0.0037 pts for risking your 200 doesn't get it.

Its priced as if other planes just fold up in its presence, when actually, its tough to get kills. Flying the jet has got to be one of the most hazardous occupations in AH.

More perkies for kills!

Get your plane back alive... that's what counts

Gets more adrenalin pumping too, especially with more at risk!

MadBirdCZ · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2002, 08:42:12 AM »

Hehe when I fly 262s I fly it because I want to kill bombers in it...

(isnt it what is was built for?) And believe me, buffs pop like baloons when you pump them up with those canons... It all depends on the approach and luck

And even those B-26s I fear like hell when I fly any other plane die quite easyly when I fly 262... Just thinking about it makes me want to roll 262... Soo in the evening enemy buffs better stay low...

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2002, 10:39:27 AM »

I've been in too many fights where an Me262 showed up and completely changed the complection of the engagement to believe this plane does not deserve the current perk value.

I'm glad they are rare.

AKDejaVu

mrsid2 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2002, 11:00:10 AM »

AKDeja, how many times have you been actually shot down by one?