Originally posted by MANDOBLE
DMF, you seem to know little or just nothing at all about our AH 190 set. it handles very well said all about your D9 NULL knowledge.
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I've flown the Dora with great success in the past, and I wing with Nath who flies the 190A8. Unfortunately for you, I
do know the AH 190 set rather well, and the 190D9 handles extremely well. That doesn't mean that it turns very well. What it does mean is that it exhibits a number of very desirable flight properties that include nice E retention in the vertical, good to great roll response, very high speed, fluid controls, nice stall characteristics, and more. You're absolutely freaking kidding yourself if you believe otherwise. It's one of the nicest complete plane packages in the entire game that mates extremely high speeds with competent handling and a nearly infinite WEP.
Kills do not mean usage, deaths do (1 death = 1 plane used). Tour 24: 7617 deaths for 190D9, 9872 for 109G10 AND 20490 ONLY for SpitV. So, I insists, that "WONDER-UBER-UNPERKED" plane is absolutely underused compared with the "POOR" SpitV.
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Deaths no more indicate useage than kills do in this context. Not every flight ends with death, and Doras on average have higher survivability than Spit Vs due to their speed, so it's possible that there are many more sorties than deaths.
And I insist that the Dora is hardly underused by any stretch of the imagination. You've invented the myth of the underused Dora to perpetuate this illusion you have of its perceived inferiority among players. This then enables you to claim that your success in it both proves them wrong
and demonstrates that you can fly the toughest plane in the game. The fact is that the Dora is neither underused by a long shot, nor is it remotely the hardest plane in the game to fly. Sorry to disappoint you, but it's true.
About 190A8 and A5, both outturns and ourrolls the D9, and both have better hi speed handling than D9 too, and I have extensive experience flying all of them. D9 is faster and has a better substained climb (not zoom), in the other hand it has 2 guns instead 4.
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The A8 does not necessarily outturn the Dora, but the A5 certainly does. The Dora is
substantially faster than both of them, and it also possesses more forgiving controls. I've never had the Dora try to kick out from under me like the A8 will. And while you're correct that the A8 rolls better than the Dora, you misrepresent the fact that the Dora still outrolls just about every other plane in AH. In my experience, the Dora also seems much more stable than the A8 in the pure vertical -- much less willing to stall out or torque into a spin.
190A8 is far better jabo than 190F8, so its kill/death is not very representative (same for P51/P47/P38/F6F/F4U). In the other hand, D9 is almost useless as jabo and logically its K/D will be always greater.
Eh? Something used in a jabo role would probably have a higher, not a lower, K/D ratio due to the vulching that inevitably occurs during such operations. In the very least, I'd expect that vulching offsets the danger of jabo work in the long run.
Wake up from your fantasy world, Mandoble. The Dora is as much a dweeb ride as the La-7 or Spits. You're in total denial.
-- Todd/Leviathn
