why dont HTC make the entire panzer and the hull section of the ostwind impervious to small caliber fire apart from the grill on the back which, if hit enough would kill the engine , possibly cause fire that ignites ammo (just to keep quiet all the 'they used to bounce 50 cals off the floor and hit the underside' group

)>COFF BS<
They seemed to be happy to have the LW flyers have their
20mm cannons be useless against tanks for over a year so why should those that fly 50caliber planes complain?
The way i see it the panzer is the ONLY Gv that should feel pretty much totally safe vs almost all aircraft guns in the game, apart from those cailbers that were DESIGNED to kill tanks like the 23mm iL2 cannons.
ALL other caliber cannons should require the CORRECT angle of attack at VERY close distances like it says they needed in the history books.That means less than 500 meters. Most 20mm will penetrate armour if they have the specialised AP ammo, are fired at almost 90 degree to the armour plate,and are fired within an effective range, which incidently is not outside 1k like i see in AH often. (ok im not an expert, Tony Williams take over here

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Ive had a p51 dive at my panzer fire from 1.5k to 1.1k before pulling up, hitting me with about 5 hits and I lost top mg,turret gun,and tracks.Now Im not annoyed anymore because now i expect this silly damage but it NEEDS looking into.
we dont want people saying 'yeah AH is great , but the ground vehicles are unrealistic and no fun', we want tank lovers to come and drive the damn things!

personally i think the answer is to make the killing of GVs a SKILL.
give use timed fuse bombs so we can perform the tank busting that is shown in books.
Bombs of 250lbs or more hitting next to a tank(within reason) should throw it up in the air like a 'box of matches' just like it is described the tiger tanks were when the allies bombed them during the Normandy battle, and tiger tanks were something rediculous like 40 tonnes? MUCH heavier than m16s,m8s or even the panzerIV.
Rockets as you can see in those famous typhoon films are no paultry weapon either! They threw up huge amounts of earth in those films and i feel they should do much more damage than they do now in AH.
so lets make it right.If someone bothers to take the RIGHT weapon(ie bombs and rockets) for the job of killing heavily armoured vehicles then fair enough they get kills. If they are skilled shots hitting the top of turrets or the rear of the tank, or they fire at extreme close range with 20-37mm then give them the damage they deserve.But please dont allow any old joe shoot off 20 50 cals and write off a tank.
M16s,M3s,ostwinds turret,even M8s are no match for a machine gun that fires inside their protective body from above(ie where the crew are manning guns etc and are almost totally expossed) and so SHOULD be easier to kill but med-heavy tanks? No No No.