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« on: February 22, 2002, 11:07:24 PM »
56th FG launched 6 P-47D-25 from A4:  Ammo, Nomde, Oblittoo, Pollock, RGJ, Sancho.  We flew to A5 and killed 2 bomber hangars and numerous acks.  The field rebuild time setting was porked and stuff was coming back up about 1 minute after killing it, so we had to clear on out.  But I'm proud of my guys for their solid JABO work and for not losing any of them to ground fire.

Later we encountered numerous Ki61 aircraft south of A3 and engaged them.  I shot down one, and we damaged a few others.  We were perhaps a bit reckless and were trying to kill them before other friendly squads could.  :)  Ammo was hit and lost his engine, but he was able to ditch within sight of our field.  From there, I had to leave for work and Nomde took control of the 4 remaining squaddies.

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2002, 11:41:47 PM »
S!

Good job 56th!

I finished my flight by ditching at sea because I had one minute left on my connection before my idiot ISP kicked me off... within 5 miles of our field. *sigh*

Great fun though!

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2002, 11:45:17 PM »
USN Intelligence reported an enemy task force consisting of 3 CVs and 3 DDs to south of TF39 (C39). Nightmares launched 18 planes (16 Hellcats with 2 x 1000 lbs bombs and 2 TBMs with torps) to attack it.

We swept sectors 18,11 19,11 18,10 and 19,10 without finding the IJN fleet. At this point we split up to search adjacent sectors.

Finally with over an hour in the air we spotted the IJN fleet at 17,10,2. There was no enemy CAP so we rallied aboved the IJN fleet and then attacked it in 3 waves.

The IJN fleets AA put up a hailstorm of lead trying to defend itself and we lost 4 Hellcats and 1 TBM to their fire. Another Hellcat took an engine hit and had to ditch.  But the IJN paid a very terrible price for these victories .. we sank 3 CVs and 1 DD. Two of their destroyers survived but we were low on fuel and so RTB.

I believed that 11 Hellcats and 1 TBM headed for home. At TF39 all the planes that made it their landed with no problem. But with only 2 DDs left and only 30 minutes left in the frame we decided not to launch again.


Launched = 18
KIA           =   5
Ditched     =  1
RTB           = 12

3 CVs sunk
1 DD sunk
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2002, 02:19:04 AM »
Although I had a GREAT time, this is a sort of squeak....can't the CM team check out the arena prior to gametime to make sure its ok? We lost half our squad because the ack came back up about 2 minutes after we killed it. That combined with the destructible rearm pad fiasco in the last TOD has a few of our guys wanting to not fly TOD.

Dont get me wrong, we LOVE the scenarios and thats what makes the little glitches all the harder to swallow.

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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2002, 06:12:39 AM »
Raub,

Actually things sort of went strange last night. First the setup CM Pyroman got booted from the system around 10:20. But he had finished setting up the arena and checking it. I know because my squad shows up at 10:00 pm to start forming up.

Then the strange thing is while he was discoed the arena reset itself and threw us all out. When we came back the setup / tables he put in place were gone and different ones were in place.

No idea on how the arena reset itself and went back to default tables or if somebody came in and did this. But I know that when he reconnected and Nifty showed up around 10:40 they rebuilt things from scratch in about 20+ minutes. They usually take about 2 hours to set things up coming on around 9 pm. I know this because we scheduled a Loose Duel with Swoop and Cavalear earlier in the night and had to make sure we were done by 8:30 so Pyroman could come over and start setting things up.

So while annoying I would not say the CMs dropped the ball. They missed things in their fast reset up of the arema.

Big thing to find out was after his disco why the arena reset to a different set of tables. Not sure how that is possible unless somebody with arena setup powers came in and did it but that is what happened.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2002, 06:15:27 AM by ghostdancer »
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2002, 09:09:01 AM »
Raub I am sorry to here that. :( When things like that happen what we "can do" is allow players to reup who were killed due to a CM error. If you lost any to ack that came up in 2 minutes at least they could reup.

Again I am sorry, I will mention it to pyroman to check the rebuild time during the setup.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2002, 09:13:06 AM »
Short MAG-33 AAR:
16 launched for a suspected TF group of enemy Cruisers to the NW.  Intercepted by Zero's about T+10 into frame. 4 shot down.  Heavy's pushed on to target, and was intercepted again, this time by N1k's, 3 more lost.  Only 3 heavy's made it into target, with Phantom putting the final blow on one cruiser.  Swoop had a helluva night with claims of 2 zero's, 2 N1K's and 3 JU88's.  Total claims for the group was roughly 10 with a loss of 10 of our own, and 2 to mechanical failures, one ditch.

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2002, 09:26:13 AM »
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Launched 12 F6F's to escort. 100% fuel and a drop tank.
One pilot had engine trouble and did not join us to escort MAG 33 North to the enemy fleet. We shadowed MAG 33 north for a while but just above the clouds we encounterd enemy zekes.  Mongrels bagged 2. We continued north to the 11 line but were under orders not to go past that and had to leave MAG 33.

We retuned to 41 and 49 to CAP both fleets. 41 was quiet so we headed south to patrol around 49. Swagger and sour were above the clouds while the rest of us kept just under the cloud cover. About 15 miles from the fleet we broke out of the cloud front and spotted enemy torpedo bombers low over the water south and east of the fleet. It was a turkey shoot. Enemy torpedo bombers were going down everywhere under our guns. Makarov9 shot down 4!   to those who were flying the torpedo bombers, (been there). ;) We intercepeted 3 formations attempting to attack Task Group 49 and all were destroyed. I think we lost 3 AC in that engagement. We continued to patrol between Task Groups 41 and 49. We spotted one lone zeke who shot down one of our AC who lost sight of us and did not stay with the patrol.  I also sent two fighters to help out a squadron calling for help. No other enemy were spotted. When fuel was down to ½ tank we landed and lost one AC on landing.

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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2002, 10:35:27 AM »
Raub I apogize AGAIN for the problems last night :( .  I really feel bad for what happend.

Last night I came in a 8:30 and began to set up the arena.  At 10:20 I went to go potty (pop will do that to a guy) and when I came back it said connection to host lost.  Needless to say I was ready to start crying.  I say this because when I came back in my tables were no longer loaded for some reason.  Which means the arena rebooted itself to defualt tables.  When I loaded mine back up I realized I hadn't saved it prior to my potty call.  

Basically 2 hours worth of work went POOF!  So yes things were Fubared last night and I should have saved everything as I went along.  I was in a groove though and forgot.  Setting up tables from scratch isn't a easy job.

Thanks to Nifty helping me!  Or we would have started alot later.  Yes we missed the reup part.  I apologize for that.  We were in a rush and we missed that.  I also would like to apologize for misplacing AK's CV as well and I appreciate your squads patience in that matter.

You guys were class acts and I do appreciate it.  I'll do my best not to let that happen again.  Just keep in mind that setting up for a scenario is a nerve racking job because you don't want to miss anything.  This stuff does unfortunately happen.  

Thank You,

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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2002, 10:58:18 AM »
Well, I think that all of these little glitches are learning experiences (I hope!), and that as they come up, if this doesn't exist already, then I suggest that the CMs can compile an arena setup checklist, so that all of these little things aren't overlooked.

So it would've been okay for us to re-up the guys who got tagged by the ack after it had all been destroyed?  Wish we'd known last night!

Overall, great work - and thanks for putting in the time and effort, CMs.  S! to everyone who flew - it was a blast!

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2002, 12:51:18 PM »
I didn't realize all that had happened. Sorry for squeaking. I do appreciate that its not an easy thing to do and you guys did a good job considering. We still had a blast, thanks!

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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2002, 03:59:42 PM »
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So it would've been okay for us to re-up the guys who got tagged by the ack after it had all been destroyed? Wish we'd known last night!
Yes! Whenever there is a error due to CM's or a bug we will allow reup's.

Np Raub. :) We do have a check list, but sometimes CM's forget to use it. When it hits the fan the pressure to keep 130 guys happy is not easy. I can understand how things will get missed when CM's scramble to set things up again after a disco or lost tables.   :eek:

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2002, 04:17:45 PM »
I went over all the variables, I just flat out missed seeing 0.1000 for rebuild time.  when you're scanning fast and expecting to see 1.0000, 0.1000 doesn't look that much different.   Believe me, it's now noted on my folder where I keep all my CM documents I've printed out.  We did the best we could to get the show on the road after the arena died.  :(
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2002, 05:39:43 PM »
Raub,

See my other post about the logs starting late.

We are going to change the scores, (something we rarely due).  In that thread I would like you to claim the AC you lost due to the ack rebuilding too fast.  I will ask exile will make the changes to your squads score due to our error.  Make sure you do it by Wednesday.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2002, 08:01:57 AM »
Pyroman, do not feel bad.  One of the early on TOD's, the AA came back up again when MAG-33 went to finish off its target in the 2nd hour of the two hour frame, you are not the first to leave the rebuild time set fast, and won't be the last most likely as long as Murphy's law applies to Aces High as well. :)

Incidently guys, when the CM's are *relatively* new I tend to give them alot of leeway, meaning lets all excercise alittle patience.  So far it looks as though we all are being very patient.