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Offline streakeagle

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HTC!!! Don't let FA3 beat you....
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2002, 08:33:50 PM »
I appreciate AH graphics: look reasonably good yet permit high framerates, but I want planeset! planeset! planeset!

No sim will make me happy til everything from the Wright Flyer to the Space Shuttle is covered in full detail, and I want nothing short of perfection in flight models and 3d models. Weapons too, from pistols and steel spikes in WWI to AMRAAM and beyond. In short, I want it all! and I want it now!

Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme!
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2002, 03:38:08 AM »
I've played FA3 a few times. It's got better graphics yes.. But playability is just not there.

FM is *cough* not complete, FOV is so narrow that you lose several degrees of vision between 2 different views --> you lose the enemy for 2-3 seconds in turns unless you use padlock.

And no, I dont think that picture above was a real screenshot. At least it looks much worse on my geforce3 and all details to the max.

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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2002, 04:09:39 AM »
Yeah FA3's graphics look good, but that's as good as they are going to get.  AH players don't have to wait on a AH2 for improvements or additional planes, boats, guns, or vehicles. Heck wasn't that long ago I remember AH didn't even have clouds or flak burst, or even blue water that splashed for that matter .
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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2002, 05:56:40 AM »
Hi,

I have actually flown both and do like FA3 for what it is. Exactly this discussion happening in the FA community as well. And they have the same comments about AH as we have about them.

I would say that what we are used to we like and protect. FA3 has a great planeset and actually has a pretty good physics. Vr1 is a great vendor and my impression is that since M$ got away they are doing a honest job to keep the community happy and working very hard. I have tried Arcade, Intermedia and Advance and it does work quite good. Hitech should be worried.

FA3 is only for piloting and no 'extra' goddies as in AH, but love the flying bit so it may fit me. This i thing Hitech should leverage on for future development because Vr1 have promised the community that FA will have similar features as AH in not a distant future.

I have only been flying FA3 for about a week now together with some other friends from AH. Because this is a "free" BETA until April why not. There seems to be a lot of people from WWII Online in there as well.

The current "free" BETA is a MAJOR download but it is worth while trying. I do like AH as well and its great community. I have however decided that i need something new and fresh so i am going to give it a go. If its better, i am going to stay if not i will return to my beloved AH. I did the same thing with WWII Online but that sucked and i dont care if it has improved.

I did try FA2 and did not like it and started AH and i do love AH for what it is, a game. There will always be new products announced that will attract communities such as AH, FA WWII etc.

Another thing is the community! AH community is greate but so is FA and WWII also, if you play those games.

Quite frankly i dont care what anyone thinks as long as me and my friends have fun together.

Have fun

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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2002, 07:09:43 AM »
These discussions degenerate into "big dick" contests no matter what board you see them on. The original intent of the thread was an F4F lobby, but you can see how quickly that changed. Take no offense, play what you like.

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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2002, 08:12:41 AM »
Kieran m8,

I agree 100% with you!

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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2002, 10:28:58 AM »
I tried it out (see my comments in the O'Club).

I don't think HTC has too much to be worried about.

As for the graphics, the ONLY part that looks good are the airplane models and clouds, and the airplanes only look good at less than D2.0 - more than that and it transforms into a square.

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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2002, 10:34:33 AM »
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Hitech should be worried.


No he should not... and neither should VR1.

I bet there is room enough for both of these arena sims.

... but I do agree..  play what you like.
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2002, 11:27:10 AM »
sheesh,  just get the damned F4F-3 into AH ASAP!!!!

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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2002, 11:58:53 AM »
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No he should not... and neither should VR1.

I bet there is room enough for both of these arena sims.

... but I do agree..  play what you like.


I agree, apples and oranges. Tried it for a while last night. Not my cup of tea.
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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2002, 12:50:47 PM »
What Nifty said. :)

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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2002, 04:58:43 PM »
Look at those rivets around the wing joint..Bloody beautiful!!!..Bring F4F to AH..!!!This is the best screen shot I've ever seen..:)
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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2002, 05:15:17 PM »
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I've played FA3 a few times. It's got better graphics yes.. But playability is just not there.

FM is *cough* not complete, FOV is so narrow that you lose several degrees of vision between 2 different views --> you lose the enemy for 2-3 seconds in turns unless you use padlock.

And no, I dont think that picture above was a real screenshot. At least it looks much worse on my geforce3 and all details to the max.


You poor lost NVidia soul. All of my games look that smooth at x2 FSAA :) I just don't have the speed to use it at higher resolutions than 1280 x 1024. Of course it looks so good at 1024 x 768, that's what I normally run at :D

I seem to be hijacking everyone's threads lately, so why not hijack the same thread twice ;)

I finally tried some offline practice combat with FA3: the F4F looks pretty, but the ACM/view thing is going to kill this game. AH still has the best view system by far. If only HTC would fill my view with all of these great early war planes before I hit retirement age :D
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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2002, 07:34:57 PM »
it does look that good. I just came out from a rainy Guadalcanal night fight.

Again i do agree and take back my previous statement there are pros & Cons in any game and there should be room for more than one. I guess it is up to what we want.

Thats it from me on this topic.

Have fun

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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2002, 05:57:17 AM »
Streak: Pretty is pretty and performance is performance. I'd lose eye candy over a smooth FPS anytime.

I could use FSAA with my geforce3 but I choose not to. There might be a time when my framerates would chop simply because of eye candy, losing a fight because of that is not worth it.

Offline sims I have no problem to play even with choppy framerates, those you can pause, change settings and continue :)

Edit: I take my words back about the graphics, they really do look that good in the correct light and external view.

The view from the cockpit portrays the skin as very low res blocky bitmaps, at distance it looks much better - especially with a light source reflecting from it.

Too bad the game is still ruined by the poor view implementation and rubber-band FM. It's pretty.
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