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Offline N1kPaz

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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2002, 12:38:23 PM »
mora...look at the last doofis we had in office...the guy spent so much time catering to special interest groups he didnt notice what a laughing stock he had turned the american presidency into. i think maybe we are just glad to have a leader we can respect again,

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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2002, 12:52:05 PM »
Zap, so you went from one extreme to another is that any better. You seem to see things too much in black or white "Either with us or against us".

Going off-topic lets get back to porn.:)

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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2002, 01:04:48 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2002, 01:35:56 PM »
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very strange what some will stand behind or allow in the name of protecting some "freedom" :rolleyes:


 Many people do not believe that you can have freedom sliced into suitable chunks.


 I could definitely live without porn. In fact I would prefer to live in a world where there is no porn produced because there is no demand for it to justify production and.or no people willing to engage in it's production. I would raise my children to that effect.
 I just cannot entrust someone with deciding what we should like or think.

 I do not want anyone to try to solve the problem because the way our society is going about it, it is just a huge waste of money and causes the problem to move into unregulated and uncontrolled (other then by organised crime) black market.

 I definitely do not want anyone to tackle the problem by the only way that may work - cleansing of the genepool or total individual surveilance.

 miko

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2002, 03:21:45 PM »
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i just think that it is not good for YOU


Well I can't figure out how it can be bad for me either. :)

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and i speak from experience...i was once an avid porn viewer...then i went to therapy and they helped me sort alot of stuff out (still got plenty to sort though).


Sooo...you went to a shrink to get rid of good porn? I think you went there for all the wrong reasons...


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...i occasionaly like to stir some toejam..sorry.


...I think you might have a real problem right here. :D  [j/k]
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2002, 03:36:14 PM »
I ag... agr.... arggg.... Agree with hblair on this issue. Except for maybe one little thing, I don't think any laws should be made to outlaw porn....have at it guys.

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2002, 03:42:21 PM »
What is all this talk with men being responsible about sex and sexuallity? I have NEVER forced clothes off of a girl or her to have sex with me. She makes the decision, she takes it as far as she wants it to go. We talk like men are in control of the industry. If the girls didn't do it we wouldn't have an industry. I have an ex-girlfriend who is 22 and was making $15/hour canadian living in a town (not toronto) with her son. She wanted more money and she lacks the morals not to do something like that. It was her choice and she seeked out a position in that field. GREED. No pimps came knocking on the door with a gun and trenchcoat and got her hooked on coke. Now she drive a beamer and I'm still running around in my POS saab

People always seem to say "Those poor girls", they obviously haven't really met them.

They are always in control, they just won't let you know.

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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2002, 04:14:10 PM »
but don't you see that it's only 'exploitive' because of society's view of sex?

if we made nose-blowing taboo then nose-blowers would be ostracized and cast down, but it doesnt mean what they are doing is inherently wrong.

in the 1800s showing large tracts of breast was acceptable but an exposed ankle drew gasps.

today the inverse is true. why? what changed? it is |purely| a social construction. the examples are myriad.

we make things right and wrong all the time...how many single pregnant girls had their lives ruined in the 50's  because of oppressive social ideas? were they incapable of loving or raising their child? were they bad mothers? no, they were just filthy, disgusting, nasty, worthless, potato sinners who didn't deserve to live with the rest of us good people that's all.....

thankfully reason has thawed that old belief  out a bit and women don't have to kill themselves, move out of town, cry themselves to sleep every night in self-hate, raise a child they hate or visit dr. coat hanger as much these days....

if sex were put back into perspective as a regular bodily function and taken out of the dark primitive realm of superstition where sex is some dirty, filthy, horrible necessity, then people having sex would hardly be worth noting much less scoffing at.

in other words - it only breaks your heart to see your daughter posing because the act is considered evil, not because it is inherently bad.

it wouldn't affect you at all to see her eat pork but it would if you were moslem......

is she physically injured? no - is it enjoyable to her? maybe....but the only thing making it evil is the place society puts it in...it has no natural or god-given place, we define it every day.

an "awesome sexual relationship" to the pious may be mary laying back once a year while jebadiah does the 'filthy deed', wishing he could pray a baby into existance rather than have to do such a dirty, horrible, corporeal, squishy thing.

of course he wouldn't dare think that thought because such insolence would surely result in the very suitable punishment of an infinite, relentless torture upon his death for daring to question the divine way..... instead of blindly quivering with inspired fear as commanded....

sexual thoughts are natural - repressing them is abnormal. i will never be able to live that way in my lifetime because i too am programmed a certain way like everyone else, but eventually we may get it right....sexual monogamy may always have some useful biological role but those who choose not to live that way may one day walk the earth 'un-smitten'.

....see a catholic priest for an example of what happens to people who try to repress their natural tendencies for too long...now they are thinking about allowing marriage among priests?! but...but..but...i thought it was a divine and infallable directive right from god via the pope(who also infallably represents the word of god)? now it's maybe 'not-divine'? so it was......wrong? GASP!

hmmmmm who's really pullin' the switches.....i guess the bus will rattle dangerously out of control along this dirt road with us cowering in the back until we realize the driver isn't invisible, he's not there! and that if we don't want to go off a curve, we need to take the wheel. decriminalizing various aspects of nature will be step one.

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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2002, 04:33:20 PM »
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if sex were put back into perspective as a regular bodily function and taken out of the dark primitive realm of superstition where sex is some dirty, filthy, horrible necessity, then people having sex would hardly be worth noting much less scoffing at.


In other words, Hawaii before the missionaries showed up.
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2002, 04:33:24 PM »
Amen! (no pun intended) ;)

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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2002, 09:53:23 PM »
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For those interested in subject of american porn I recommendchesking this link - I watched the expose and it was very educational.

 American Porn

 Why was the other thread closed? It was a very civil discussion. Was some rule violated?

 miko


Excellent report. Thanx Miko...

One more reason to like Janet Reno. :D
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2002, 10:55:14 PM »
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In other words, Hawaii before the missionaries showed up.


A good buddy of mine who is a 70 year old Hawaiian is fond of saying that the Missionaries told the Hawaiians to bow their heads and pray- They looked up and their land was gone.

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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2002, 01:19:38 AM »
Gawd. Nothing wrong with porn. Its all natural sex. Getting nasty with a girl is fun. Porn is just getting nasty  while on film.  
It is human life. Just think of what our parents  did while they where funking.  It is only harmless sex untill the PUPPIES POP OUT!

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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2002, 02:07:05 AM »
Well I think you people are right. I truly appreciate the time and effort that ya'll put forth to educate me on the situation we have been discussing. I appologize wholeheartedly to anyone who I may have offended or insulted. As always, my prayers go out to each and every one of you. Friends and Foes. Take care.

sincerely, Zap

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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2002, 02:33:35 AM »
I just want to know this.

A man dies and goes to heaven.  If heaven is truely paradise, where he gets what he's always wanted, and never get anything bad...

...then isn't Heaven a porno flick?

Hans.

P.S.  Make that a porno flick with Maralyn Monroe?