BoB in the CT this Weekend!

[lazs2]

"3) All aircraft and vehicles allowed to each side are enabled at all original bases, just not captured bases. That last part may seem gamey to some, but we're trying to present the Battle of Britain, not Operation Sealion. "

Does this mean that a field can be captured but it is then useless to either side?   If that is the case then the only real effect of this "feature" is to lengthen the time it takes either side to get to a base/fight.

milino.. sorry you don't like what I say.   Point is.. it is simply stating the obvious.    What exactly about what I said do you find is wrong?

ripsnore... I have never been a realbig fan of RPS.  I didn't mind it but I feel there are better ways to "protect my precious early war planes".    You seem to have a little problem with the truth when it comes to me.   My guess is that it extends to anything you find inconvienient.

I have had company all weekend so haven't gotton online at all except in the mornings.   What have the numbers in the CT been like and how did the non capturable bases thing play out?
lazs

[Kieran]

This was the best SEA setup yet, leave it alone for a while. Numbers were good, there were good fights, and there was strat for those so inclined.

[Sabre]

...how did the non capturable bases thing play out?

Am I talking to myself here?  Ah well.  In any event, it didn't appear there were any successful base captures over the weekend.  People were having to much fun doing air-to-air work, I guess:).  I knew you'd take exception to number 3, Lazs, but you know what they say...two out of three ain't bad:D

Sabre
CT Staff

[Czpetr]

I enjoy BoB arena very much! creators! Except of one thing - please remove CV fleets from arena. Sailing CV fleets in Channel are nonsense in BoB and it brings some unhistorical actions (carrier operations near French coast/shelling French coast, planes hiding in ack cover over Channel etc) Also it should be more interesting to have dot radar only over England or near English coast, and only activity bars over Channel/France (for RAF). Perhaps it should be more motivating to concetrate on defending England than to chase cons deep over sea and enemy territory. Just thoughts to make BoB arena little more historic

czpetr

[Sabre]

Czpetr: Unfortunately, the fleets are part of the terrain, and can't be removed by the CT Staff.  I could disable flight, and disable gunners, but there's no way for me to disable player conning of the fleets themselves.  I could jump them to a far corner of the map, but it wouldn't take long for someone to set them on a course to steam them back up the channel.  So instead of spending the time and energy to try to keep them out of the way, I decided to make the part of the set up.  Both sides have the means of sinking them.  They also give the British some additional operating locations to make up for the dirth of RAF bases along the Dover coast.

As far as dar goes, I had originally intended to set it up in the manner you suggest.  Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your personal view of radar settings in the CT), this terrain was designed with odd placement of radar dishes.  I'm still searching for the best setting, but as long as most people aren't complaining too loudly, I'll probably leave it alone.  Thanks for the suggestions, tho.

Sabre
CT Staff

[Kieran]

30-40 when I was on, Lazs, and fights were engaged within five minutes of upping. It was fun.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Sabre
Czpetr: Unfortunately, the fleets are part of the terrain, and can't be removed by the CT Staff.  I could disable flight, and disable gunners, but there's no way for me to disable player conning of the fleets themselves.  I could jump them to a far corner of the map, but it wouldn't take long for someone to set them on a course to steam them back up the channel.  So instead of spending the time and energy to try to keep them out of the way, I decided to make the part of the set up.  Both sides have the means of sinking them.  They also give the British some additional operating locations to make up for the dirth of RAF bases along the Dover coast.

As far as dar goes, I had originally intended to set it up in the manner you suggest.  Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your personal view of radar settings in the CT), this terrain was designed with odd placement of radar dishes.  I'm still searching for the best setting, but as long as most people aren't complaining too loudly, I'll probably leave it alone.  Thanks for the suggestions, tho.

Sabre
CT Staff

I have a few issues relating to the CT (BoB).

1) I realize that you have nothing to do with this, but I believe it should be mentioned. Bf 110C-4 cannot be modeled accurately. During the BoB, the 110s proved to be nearly useless, requiring escorts themselves to simply survive. However, in the CT, they are the dominating aircraft, and the only fighter with a positive K/D ratio, and significantly better than it should have.

2) What happened to the tripleA on the Task Forces? Wotan was clobbered at 22k! I was hit at 13k, and I was beyond visual range to boot! I could not see the Task Force, so how could they see me? What do we have here, radar ranging guns?? During the summer of 1940, the number and effectiveness of ship-borne tripleA was significantly less than on the Essex and Baltimore class ships currently in use. Furthermore, these guns are far more deadly in the CT than in the MA.

3) Why is it that the TBM is not available on the CVs? British carriers had the Swordfish and Blackburn Skua aboard.

These issues aside, I very much like the BoB setup.

My regards,

Widewing

[Ripsnort]

Widewing, fly the 110C for a bit.  The folks I saw flying them were very good in any other plane as well.  I flew the 110 for a couple sorties, but could not gain advantage on the spits or the hurri's without an altitude advantage.

Just fly one for awhile. Not one sortie, for a few hours..you'll see what I mean.

109E is "King of assists"

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by Widewing



1) I realize that you have nothing to do with this, but I believe it should be mentioned. Bf 110C-4 cannot be modeled accurately. During the BoB, the 110s proved to be nearly useless, requiring escorts themselves to simply survive. However, in the CT, they are the dominating aircraft, and the only fighter with a positive K/D ratio, and significantly better than it should have.


My regards,

Widewing

I know its a secondary issue and not the "all in all" about the CT but I gotta agree. Our 110 (both models) certainly seem a bit better than what I would have thought based on history.

I enjoyed this setup the other night. It was very refreshing.

Good show CT crew!

[Sabre]

I'm glad you're enjoying the set up, and good observations, Widewing.  As you state, there's nothing I can do about (1).  I can look at turning down heavy flak leathality, to make up for the fact that it's ahistoric.  I'll check it when I get home tonight.  As for (3), it was left out because, as a carrier-capable A/C, it is simply too superior to the British carrier-strike aircraft of the day.  It was enabled on land to represent Bomber Command's capabilities (Wellington, Blenheim, etc), because the British had to have some strike capability, IMO.  As I said above, the CV's are really only there to give the RAF some more fields to launch from, since I can't edit the terrain itself.  There is a BoB terrain being built as we speak, which should lend itself better than the Europe terrain.

Sabre
CT Staff.

[Zippatuh]

Flew in the CT for a few last night and let me say this...

We need the ability to open the cockpit, stand up, and start throwing anything we can find in the cockpit at opponents.  Gives me a whole new respect for the .50 caliber.  That goes for the .303’s and the 7.9’s.

It was definitely attack of the cha-who-a-who-a’s last night.  I’d of ejected my corpse into the enemy if had the ability .

to all, had some good fights.

Zippatuh

[lazs2]

Thank you kieran for the info..  short and too the point.

And sabre.... I don't understand you.   What do you mean by "talking to yourself'?  I read everything you wrote and it seemed a little evasive and unclear.   Thank you for clearing up the base capture thing latter on tho.   Why be evasive tho?   You feel like you are talking to yourself and I feel like I am prying information out of you.   You act like you are ashamed of some of your "features" or something.
lazs

[Fariz]

I came in for some BoB action. Got bf109. Saw fleet and 2 hurry at the fleet acks. Flew in, was killed by acks twice, logged off.

Interesing, what consideration forced CT CM's to put battle group in BoB setup? For me this one killed all the possible immersion in just 2 minutes.

Fariz

[Lephturn]

I'm surprised.  I was flying a Hurri and I was eating 110's like candy.  All they can do is BnZ... avoid a couple times then I eat 'em.  Personally, I didn't find the 110 a difficult adversary, just different.

[Raubvogel]

Flew in there for a few hours of Friday. Had fun. Planeset is great. That flak is a freakin killer though. I was instantly sent back to tower from 10-15k on 2 consecutive sorties. That was enough to make me log out.