Spit XIV and perks

[Karnak]

Staga,

Look at the screenshot of the Spit XIV in this thread.  Note the icon over it.

The icon reads "SPIT14"

The Spit XIV isn't going to be free, it has a perk icon.

[Kweassa]

XIV will propably like a G-10 but which can turn too and have those nasty Hispano cannons.

 I think that pretty much sums up why the Spit14 should be perked

 But just to be fair, I think Spit14 should have a non-perk "trial-period", so the perk values will be set according to what impact it had in the MA, and how it performs against other planes. If it indeed ruins the MA balance as foreseen, a bit heavy perk near Tempy range might be needed. If not, a light perk will do.

[Pongo]

Mommy mommy they are going to perk a spitfire mommy mommy.
I agree. introduce it unperked. Just so we can all get an idea why it is perked.
And get to let it be used enought to work out fm kinks.

[Pongo]

Originally posted by Kieran


Pongo, no need to be a jerk. I was in fact applauding the very fact Hristo is generally considered to be LW-biased, yet he called for an unperked adversary. You know, as in "I appreciate how he can view things from the other side?"

As for me, I don't know how I would feel about an unperked Spit XIV. Truth is, until I see how it is modeled here, I will not know. Does that suit your sensibilities? Criminy, I don't even fly Spits to any extent and you have me solidly in the camp...

"NEXX

PS Thank you Hristo for posting a very UN-biased topic!
"
Hristo is just saying what he wants to hear Kieran.. My post wasnt directed at you.

[Slayer]

perk this dont perk that u buncha winebag sissys. who said war was ever fair. u start perking your "dweeb" planes lets see which are the la7 spitty nik blah blah blah then you end up with a unperked plane set. out of the unperked plane set one stands out as better than the rest say like what would be the 205 now you babies would start wining about  that. If you cant run with the big dogs stay off the porch.

[Kieran]

Sorry, my apologies. Following as closely on the heels of my original post, I assumed you meant me. S!

[AKEagle+]

Well said Slayer.

What a bunch of whining wooses.  "I don't want the arena full of planes that can compete with my XXXXXXX.

You better give newbies some rides they can compete in. Or you won't have newbies, which translates into you won't have a AH in a year or so.

The present perk system is a travesty with I doubt that HT will do anything about.  60 points for a F4U-4???  Kee ripes, that puppy is a lo slow pig if a pilot screws up and gets to slow.  And newbies will do that, and they will die, and they will go back to the NIKs and the Spit 9s.

The popularity of the Spits and NIKs and LA7s is due to the arena, not due to the plane set per se.  To many furballs, in which you see planes low slow and turning.  Thus planes like the Spit5, Spit9, and NIK shine. Perk those and you will see lots of Zekes and Spit1s or whatever else is good to defend a base that is being vulched.  

The present strat has been created by HC, it is an UNREALISTIC bomb/vulch and attack bases.  I leads to little quality dog fighting, rather it leads to a lot of arcade like furballing at bases and an emphasis on planes that shine in that type of furball.  

A lot of fun but hardly realism.

Drastically reduce the price of perk rides, and you would see the plane mix improve, and also the fun.  But certainly not the quality of the dogfighting experience.

AKEagle+

[Hangtime]

Only thing I found of intrest in the whole thread...

Originally posted by Hristo

P.S.
I am back

Duly noted.

[Pongo]

Hang has been circling for months watching for that...

[Bluedog]

Originally posted by Gwjr2
everyone who whines for perking planes, have thousands of perks so dodent matter, they can fly whatever.  What about the new peeps that paid to fly em too?....so first thing should be all perks get reset then who would want to perk what?

GW:p  

No, just like the guys who have been here for ages, you are paying for the oppertunity to earn perks, not the perks themselves, it's just some folks have paid a lot more than others, over a longer time, and have accumulated more perk points.
It's as fair as it gets, do the time, pay the dues, reap the benefits.

Oh, and when we do get the Spit XIV, I too hope it isnt perked, or if it is, make it cheap, after all, it wasnt exactly an uncommon bird in the real thing.
Same thing goes for the 'there are too many spits!' whines....betya that's what more than a few of the German fliers of WWII thought too The thing was everywhere, in great numbers all up, through almost the entire course of WWII, it is only right that we should see a lot of them.

And that's coming from a 109 driver


Blue

[WBHoncho]

lol nobody has even flown the damn thing and all up in arms

[Wilbus]

Well Said Kweassa, let me add to it though. Unperk ALL planes for 1 week or maybe even 1 tour *shrug*, see how much people fly each plane and perk them after that. Can leave the 262 out of it though, it is perked, should stay perked and has got a good perk price.

Ta152, Tempest, F4u-4 (can leave F4u1c out of it too) should all be tested free, see how much people really fly them.
 I am willing to bet most people would still chose La7's, spits and nikis over those planes. First week everybody would fly em, then... many would go back to their normal rides.

[Xjazz]

Spit XIV vs

109G


190A

[Staga]

So far 3 most childish posts: FD Ski, Slayer and AKEagle.
Do your mothers know you're using their credit cards?

[Wilbus]

Nice pageXjazz, I have the Spit 5 and Spit 9 vs 190 A3 in a book, nice to have it here too.

Doesn't say what 190 version it is though, it's not 40mph faster then a G10, not even the G10 that is the most common versions in books (426mph). If it was, the Spit would have a speed of almost 470mph.

With both aircraft flying at high cruising speed and then pulling up into a climb, the superior climb of the FW 190 is even more marked. When both aircraft are pulled up into a climb from a dive, the FW 190 draws away very rapidly and the pilot of the Spitfire has no hope of catching it.

Yha, like that'd ever happen in AH