Author Topic: Teddy (Read 1683 times)

SageFIN · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2002, 06:33:40 PM »

Yea, there's nothing that those commie bastards could ever have invented before the great western civilization that we all are. WTF is a sputnik anyway

Tac · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2002, 07:47:35 PM »

Well, the Indian epic (Mahabrata..SP?) make reference to flying machine "Vimanas" powered by some sort of mercury-burning engine.

And then of course we have to take into account the stupid caveman that slipped on the edge of the 500ft cliff and flapped all the way down.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2002, 08:55:17 PM »

remember that old joke from the '70's?

the 3 stages of development

1. it's invented in the US
2. the japanese make it smaller and cheaper
3. the russians claim they've had it for 20 years and have been keeping it a secret.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2002, 09:21:21 PM »

LOL

So true, so true, so tragically true...........

Nashwan · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2002, 09:51:53 PM »

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They were not practical for home use as the Edison light bulb proved to be.

The Edison bulb was exactly the same design as the one invented by Thomas Swan.

Swan designed the bulb 18 years before Edison, but couldn't make it work properly and abandoned it. However, he modified it in 1878, using exactly the same filament Edison "invented" a year later.

Edison may not have copied Swan's bulb, but his invention merely duplicated something that had already been built.

Gadfly · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2002, 10:07:19 PM »

Yeah? Well I invented peeing while standing up.

Boroda · « **Reply #21 on:** March 26, 2002, 09:06:35 AM »

1. it's invented in the US
2. the japanese make it smaller and cheaper
3. the russians claim they've had it for 20 years and have been keeping it a secret.

LOL!!!

We have almost the same joke about Americans: "That Russians always steal our designs! They already have built a plane that we planned to design 5 years later!"

I never said that Yablochkov invented light bulb - he only designed a first practical usable source of electric light.

TahGut, Mozhayskiy "invented" the first "modern" airplane, and, please remember, that Wright's first flights were as successfull as his first experiments. It's not his fault that he didn't succeed. And his airplane was based on a kite design, observer kites were widely used in Russian Army and Navy. I think that most important work in heavier-then-air flight was made not by Mozhayskiy or Wright brothers, but by Otto Lilientahl. (probably wrong spelling - you know, we have different alphabet).

You guys don't believe that "that Russian barbarians" ever invented anything. A year ago there was a nice discussion about MiG-15 here, and it showed another brilliant work of your propaganda. Hehe, some people believe that "democracy" was invented in the US

There are some Russian "inventors" who were "invented" by our propaganda, like Cherepanov brothers, who "invented" a railway steam-engine in 1830s, but if you use your brain it's very easy to distinguish them.

BTW, do you know who invented copper wire? Two Jews who found a penny

Udie · « **Reply #22 on:** March 26, 2002, 09:13:38 AM »

I saw the soviet shuttle launch back in the 80's, gee it sure did look familiar. I wonder where the designs came from.

I saw a show the other night on the history channel. They talked about how the soviets stole the plans and built their own b-29's.

WB free host.....

In my lifetime I've seen mostly murderers and crooks come from your land, except for the few smart enough to leave and move to freedom, why would it have been diferent over 100 years ago?

puh'lease!

Animal · « **Reply #23 on:** March 26, 2002, 09:26:23 AM »

Damn, that Tupolev Tu-4 sure looks like a B-29! Down to the Boeing insignia on the rudder pedals.
We copied the plane and those bastards at Boeing even copied their company logo.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #24 on:** March 26, 2002, 09:42:20 AM »

Mig-15? So THAT'S what happened to all those German engineers and Scientists after May of 1945!

Raubvogel · « **Reply #25 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:20:32 AM »

And of course the French and British copied the Concorde from the Tu144

hblair · « **Reply #26 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:20:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Animal
Damn, that Tupolev Tu-4 sure looks like a B-29! Down to the Boeing insignia on the rudder pedals.
We copied the plane and those bastards at Boeing even copied their company logo.

Just when I'm about to write you off, you come up with something like that.

Bwahahaaha!.

Udie · « **Reply #27 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:35:10 AM »

Man this is the best thread in a long time! Good stuff guys

I forgot about their concorde rip off....

Boroda · « **Reply #28 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:43:18 AM »

Back on the same rail way

Tu-144 made it's first flight 3 months before Concorde.

Tu-4 was a copy of a B-29, completely converted to Metric and with Soviet engines. The biggest benefit of copying it was to adopt a progressive American technology. US were always ahead of us in technological innovations and production cullture, but Russians learned to get better results with smart original design.

Buran has nothing common with American Shuttle. Check http://www.buran.ru

This all have been discussed here more then a year ago, looks like public rotates here often

Check the thread called "MiG-15 vs Ta-183" or something like that.

If you use such pictures as arguments - then you have to admit that F-15 is a copy of MiG-25

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #29 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:44:06 AM »

Actually, it wasn't the plans that they got.. it was four whole B-29s in mint condition.

Each B-29 came in on seperate missions, but since Russia denied us use of their airspace against Japan, they "captured" our aircrews and planes that landed there.

We got the crews back after a long internment, but none of the B-29s were seen again. Well until recently when the scraps were found in some Russian junk yards.

The Tupolev designer kept the joystick column from the first B-29 that they dissassembled to study.

I forget the name of it right now, but it was on the History channel a couple of weeks ago.

So basically, the Tu-4 is simply an American B-29 that was dissassembled, studied, and then an assembly line came out of the blue producing an amazing new bomber... a "Russian" Tu-4.
-SW