Author Topic: Teddy (Read 1462 times)

Raubvogel · « **Reply #30 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:50:13 AM »

Just because the Tu144 flew first does not mean it was an original design. It was based on plans stolen from the French. The Soviets were just less cautious in their research and production phases. Losses of life and aircraft were acceptable if it meant that they would appear to have flown it first. And of course the first Tu144s had a straight nose that was later modified to the droop nose after the French Concorde.

Udie · « **Reply #31 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:58:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Raubvogel
Just because the Tu144 flew first does not mean it was an original design. It was based on plans stolen from the French. The Soviets were just less cautious in their research and production phases. Losses of life and aircraft were acceptable if it meant that they would appear to have flown it first. And of course the first Tu144s had a straight nose that was later modified to the droop nose after the French Concorde.

Tu144 was the first of the 2 to crash too

so much for the Soviets getting "better results with smart original design"

You've got to be joking boroda. After 10+ years of freedom I can't believe you still believe all the Soviet era crap that was shoved down you're throat.

hehe absolutely astonishingly humorous stuff in this thread....

Boroda · « **Reply #32 on:** March 26, 2002, 10:59:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Udie
In my lifetime I've seen mostly murderers and crooks come from your land, except for the few smart enough to leave and move to freedom, why would it have been diferent over 100 years ago?
puh'lease!

Thanks, Udie, you are always welcome

I must be totaly stupid being what I am and refusing to "move to freedom" (being always invited by my Mother, an Australian citizen).

Oh, I forgot about that KGB colonel who forces me to spend money and time on our small project that makes you so angry (something free for everyone! no way!) and makes me post all that "propaganda" here

(the paragraph above is a lame joke, just in case you have a "Jay and Silent Bob" sence of humor)

The degree of freedom that we enjoy here simply can't be compared to that nothing-but-slogans that you are granted. We made a huge step from socialism to freedom of personality in last 12 years, while you are stuck in a Cold war age.

Udie · « **Reply #33 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:09:51 AM »

Originally posted by Boroda
The degree of freedom that we enjoy here simply can't be compared to that nothing-but-slogans that you are granted. We made a huge step from socialism to freedom of personality in last 12 years, while you are stuck in a Cold war age.

Dude you need to seriously think about coming over here and check out our

"nothing-but-slogans"

freedom LOL. If you think we're stuck in the cold war age you're sadly mistaken. Most Americans forgot about the cold war about 6 months after you were defeated. But anytime I see somebody in here spewing soviet propoganda and lies I'll call it what it is

LOL!

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Freedom question for you Boroda.

How easy is it for you to visit the diferent states in the Russian Federation? Can you just get in your car when ever you want and drive across all of them? Do you need "your papers comrad" to pass over the state lines? Or can you just hop across the state lines at will like I/we can here?

midnight Target · « **Reply #34 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:15:40 AM »

Russian (Soviet) science was not as backward as we were told during the Cold War, nor was it as good as Boroda was told during the Cold War. Stalin made some horrible policy decisions regarding science, and the scientists of the early part of this century. Read this Lysenko to gather some insight.

Most great Russian scientists of the past, especially chemists were actually trained in Germany. This includes Mendelev, one of the greatest of all. But then almost all great chemists of the past century were trained in Germany.

Saintaw · « **Reply #35 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:20:37 AM »

Someone help boroda, he's bein' Ganged!

Boroda · « **Reply #36 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:25:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Udie

Tu144 was the first of the 2 to crash too so much for the Soviets getting "better results with smart original design"

Do you know the cause of that crashes? Did anyone in the West have a fly-by-wire design in late-60s?

BTW, great job of raising "public rage" against Concordes in the US in mid-70s. WTG. Nice way to get rid of competitors

midnight Target · « **Reply #37 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:28:28 AM »

I have no intention of ganging Boroda. I have actually agreed with him...(see my post on Popoff). The facts are the facts.

Udie · « **Reply #38 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:31:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

Do you know the cause of that crashes? Did anyone in the West have a fly-by-wire design in late-60s?

OH GOOD GOD!

Now you guys came up with fly by wire too!!! Jesus H. was Al Gore born over there?

Judging by the film I've seen of it, it looked like massive structural failure in flight. But I'm sure you will enlighten us to the true cause

BTW, great job of raising "public rage" against Concordes in the US in mid-70s. WTG. Nice way to get rid of competitors

I didn't do it it wasn't me. I was only 6-10 years old at the time and thought the concorde was cool stuf!

Toad · « **Reply #39 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:31:19 AM »

North American RA-5C Vigilante

"...The result of the competition was the Vigilante, the last strategic bomber built for the Navy... The A3J was first flown in August 1958 and established a new world altitude record of 91,450 feet in December 1963 while carrying a payload of 1,000 kilograms, thus surpassing the existing record by over five miles....

Electronics features:

The first production fly-by-wire control system..."

Udie · « **Reply #40 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:34:05 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
The facts are the facts.

there you go again!! damn you!!!!!:mad:

Boroda · « **Reply #41 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:35:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Udie
Freedom question for you Boroda.

How easy is it for you to visit the diferent states in the Russian Federation? Can you just get in your car when ever you want and drive across all of them? Do you need "your papers comrad" to pass over the state lines? Or can you just hop across the state lines at will like I/we can here?

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Woohoooo

LOL Udie!

Yess, that's why US still has economical sanctions against Russia for not letting the Jews emigrate! Now I understand it! Papers Comrade, LOL!!!

If you have a "foreign passport" (costs 300 rubles, $10, takes one or two days to fill the forms and maybe a month later you have it) - it's only a problem of getting a visa in the embassy of the country where you want to go. It's hard to get a visa to US and some similar xenophobic countries - they don't give visas if you are a single male aged 30, like me (hehe, and you, LOL!). I was in the US when I was 16, and came back, so maybe they'll let me in.

And, of course, you can visit most of xUSSR countries with an ordinary civilian passport, without foreign passport at all.

Udie, it IS a humorous thread! WTG!!!

Boroda · « **Reply #42 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:40:38 AM »

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[BElectronics features:

The first production fly-by-wire control system..."
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Wery sad that it's me who has to use English terms, not you trying to find Russian analogues for them.

Sorry, going to a concert of one underground communist looney, have to choose between clowns on this board (no offences, please, just trying to joke) and our native clowns with electric guitars

Hope to read some more "humor" here tomorrow

Udie · « **Reply #43 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:47:52 AM »

Originally posted by Boroda

Woohoooo

LOL Udie!

Yess, that's why US still has economical sanctions against Russia for not letting the Jews emigrate! Now I understand it! Papers Comrade, LOL!!!

huh?

If you have a "foreign passport" (costs 300 rubles, $10, takes one or two days to fill the forms and maybe a month later you have it) - it's only a problem of getting a visa in the embassy of the country where you want to go. It's hard to get a visa to US and some similar xenophobic countries - they don't give visas if you are a single male aged 30, like me (hehe, and you, LOL!). I was in the US when I was 16, and came back, so maybe they'll let me in.

Ok most foriegn countries I need a passport too. BUT I can with only a copy of my birth certificate visit most coutnries in this hemisphere. That's a form of true freedom IMO

And, of course, you can visit most of xUSSR countries with an ordinary civilian passport, without foreign passport at all.

eeew. The only thing we need here is a drivers liscense to be able to drive the vehicle legaly I've walked across 4 state lines I can visit any of our states at will as many times as I want to in my lifetime and don't need any sort of passport. I've been to Mexico, Jamaca and Hawaii, I don't have a passport and might not ever get one unless I make that pilgramage to Amsterdam (meeep meeeep )

Udie, it IS a humorous thread! WTG!!!

All in good fun! We may disagree on just about everyting, but I'd drink some Vodka with you if you'd have some tequilla with me

Krusher · « **Reply #44 on:** March 26, 2002, 11:53:06 AM »

I went to the Soviet Space exibit when it came to Dallas several years agao. The Soviet space program invented quite a bit of pretty cool stuff IMHO..

BTW they also invented some pretty damn big booster rockets !!!