On perks

[qts]

For many people, getting 50 perks is quite an easy achievement, but for others, like me, it takes a long time. Even 10 perkies is hard. It would be really nice - and a real benefit and motivation to people like me - if there were some cheap perks. Perhaps the Gigant as a troop transport for 5 or 10 perks? (The likelihood of actually landing the thing and thus retaining your perks being near zero). Perhaps being able to start at 10000 feet? Rear 50 mm cannon on the Lancaster?

I'll open the floor for possible perks in the 5-15 pt range.

[Ripsnort]

LA-7 should be a 5-15 perk plane.

[AKSWulfe]

GM1 boost on Fw-190A8, it was rarely fitted but would be a big boost in level speed.

Twin 20mm cannon gondolas for Fw-190A8.. That's 8x20mm, nothing could live!

R4M on Me262, 24 rocket salvo... be good against buffs too.
-SW

[Alpo]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
LA-7 should be a 5-15 perk plane.

Actually, it was mentioned in the Spit XIV thread, but I wouldn't mind seeing all ENY < 20 planes perked a little bit (sort of like CT setups of the past).  I'm not talking a huge points either, just enough to make flying to the death just a little painful for the planes in question.

I guess I'm in favor of costs in the less than 8 point range of the Chog.  

Just my $0.02

[Ripsnort]

Good suggestion alpo..i missed that one in that other thread.  How about allowing new accounts (not two week freebies, but those who actually sign up) 50 free perkies or something to that manner with your suggestion?

[AKSWulfe]

New accounts should start off with enough perk points to get one shot at the 262. If they are dumb and take it up their first flight and lose it, they're SOL. Gotta build up the perkies with a 202 then.
-SW

[Vector]

P-47D-11 perk accessories:
- Paddle blade propeller
- Over boosted engine

[Apache]

Here is a the problem with perks I think. How many perks you got rip? How 'bout you SW? Heck, even as bad as I am, I've got over 2000. Even if I did fly a perk regularly, it would take a while for me to lose all the points.

Here is a guy who is admittedly having difficulty obtaining perks while decent sticks have lots of points. I bet qts is getting killed by good pilots in perk planes too. The more we perk, the more it hurts the new/inexperienced folks.

Wonder how many more are out there in this same situation but we don't hear about them.

[Alpo]

Originally posted by AKSWulfe
New accounts should start off with enough perk points to get one shot at the 262. If they are dumb and take it up their first flight and lose it, they're SOL. Gotta build up the perkies with a 202 then.
-SW

It would give them an option to try any of the perk planes, some more than once and they would learn the penalties involved with piling one up...

[Wmaker]

Originally posted by AKSWulfe
Twin 20mm cannon gondolas for Fw-190A8.. That's 8x20mm, nothing could live!

Actually, that's 6 mausers only with 20mm cannon packs on.

[AKSWulfe]

I was just talking about additional accessories, not perking anything we currently have. I also think new accounts should get "free perks", but work it like the 2 week system.. you can only get it "one time".

I've got close to 1800 perks, I haven't flown a perk plane in a long while. I did manage to lose a several hundred to 262 fiascos.. I was down to 1400 perk points about 3 months ago, I'm up to about 1788 or so right now from flying the higher ENY planes and getting more kills on lower ENY value planes than higher ENY value planes. Not many people fly higher ENY planes, which makes it a regular perk point harvest. Take off in a 190A5, 205 or whatever and get a couple of kills on Spits. Guaranteed 9 perk points even if you don't land.

Some people just don't get it, they sit there in the lower ENY planes (SpitIX, La7, N1K2, P51D) and wonder why they can't accumulate a lot of perk points.

I'm not saying qts does this, I dunno what he flies... but some other people out there..

I like the idea of having an existing non-perked aircraft and allowing "perk options" on it.

Do I believe the La7 should be perked? No, but the 3 x B-20 loadout should be a cheap perk option for it and make the 2x ShVAK load out the standard "free" loadout.

I'd be willing to pay 20 perk points, the equivelant of 2 1/2 F4U-1Cs, for GM-1 boost and twin 20mm underwing gondolas for a 190A-8.

Then perk points would be of some use, as it is now perk points are virtually useless for me. Except the few times I "feel" like taking a 262 up.
-SW

[AKSWulfe]

Oh, that's right I forgot the outboard cannons were removed....

But still, that's a helluva lotta cannons. :-)
-SW

[Apache]

Originally posted by AKSWulfe
I was just talking about additional accessories, not perking anything we currently have. I also think new accounts should get "free perks", but work it like the 2 week system.. you can only get it "one time".

I've got close to 1800 perks, I haven't flown a perk plane in a long while. I did manage to lose a several hundred to 262 fiascos.. I was down to 1400 perk points about 3 months ago, I'm up to about 1788 or so right now from flying the higher ENY planes and getting more kills on lower ENY value planes than higher ENY value planes. Not many people fly higher ENY planes, which makes it a regular perk point harvest. Take off in a 190A5, 205 or whatever and get a couple of kills on Spits. Guaranteed 9 perk points even if you don't land.

Some people just don't get it, they sit there in the lower ENY planes (SpitIX, La7, N1K2, P51D) and wonder why they can't accumulate a lot of perk points.

I'm not saying qts does this, I dunno what he flies... but some other people out there..

I like the idea of having an existing non-perked aircraft and allowing "perk options" on it.

Do I believe the La7 should be perked? No, but the 3 x B-20 loadout should be a cheap perk option for it and make the 2x ShVAK load out the standard "free" loadout.

I'd be willing to pay 20 perk points, the equivelant of 2 1/2 F4U-1Cs, for GM-1 boost and twin 20mm underwing gondolas for a 190A-8.

Then perk points would be of some use, as it is now perk points are virtually useless for me. Except the few times I "feel" like taking a 262 up.
-SW

Just to clarify. I wasn't arguing your position. I just mentioned you because I assumed you had alot of points too, lol.

You are right. There are some who wonder why they don't have many points. I mean after all, they rule in the La7! Thats what one of em told me anyway.

[Vector]

Of course when this new "perk accessories" feature is enabled (1.10), all perks should be cleared.

[AKSWulfe]

Why should perks be cleared?

I don't care, I can easily build them back up. But I want to know why they need to be cleared? If they are all going to be cleared then lets start it all from scratch and give everyone an instant "perk gift". The same one new accounts get, so that no one gets totally screwed.
-SW