Author Topic: prop driven perk planes are too expensive cept f4u1c :) (Read 821 times)

Maverick · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2002, 11:42:35 AM »

Just take a tour and do an experiment. Drop all perk requirements and see what happens. Will everyone fly a 262 or chog?? Who know, just find out.

Sikboy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2002, 11:48:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
Just take a tour and do an experiment. Drop all perk requirements and see what happens. Will everyone fly a 262 or chog?? Who know, just find out.

Might not even take a full tour. Perhaps just a full week as a sample, then compare it to the average week over the past X tours.

-Sikboy

eskimo2 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2002, 12:11:44 PM »

My suggestion:

LA-7: 5 points
F4U-1C: 8 points
Ta152H-1: 12 points
Spitfire Mk XIV: 15 points
Tempest: 20 points
F4U-4: 20 points
Me262: 200 points

Ar234: 40 points

eskimo

P.S.
I have over 4500 fighter points and have burned up 5 262s, a Temp and tons of Chogs this month, just for the sake of burning points. My opinion/suggestion is not to get myself more rides in perk planes, but I would like to see/fight against some of these rare birds more often than once every 100+ hours online.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2002, 12:20:40 PM »

I'd be all for any perk point re-structure, as long as all perk point accumulated were reset to 0.

Furious · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2002, 01:15:01 PM »

I disagree that folks don't fight in the perk planes for fear of losing the points.

I believe people dont' fight in 'em because of the embarrassment, self imposed and channel 1, of losing an "uber" bird to the unwashed masses.

For me personally, the only perked fighter worth it is the Me262, but I usually get bored and wish I was in a d9 or a5 instead. Then I pull the wingtips off.

F.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2002, 01:54:51 PM »

I'm all for just cutting the perk point values in half. Even the 262 is way over priced at 200 perkies. 100 is just fine for it. The Chog is fine at 8 and you see just enough of them in the MA for a good mix and to keep the idea in mind that the hog in front of you might have 4 cannons.

HT, Pyro any thoughts?

Funny I have never seen any input on this subject from those gents.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2002, 02:25:07 PM »

It's a shame that we have 4 great planes that are rarely seen (F4U4, Temp, Ta152, Spit14).....they should certainly be a bit cheaper. Half price for all of them would suit me fine. Seems like a waste to have them if you never see them.

Tub-o-lard · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2002, 06:17:53 PM »

Maybe if the perk prices aren't reduced, HTC could at least reduce the number of perks you lose if you are shot down. That way you would still have to earn the perk plane the hard way, but the punishment wouldn't be a severe is you lose it.

We might see more perk planes getting involved in fights then.

LOCO · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2002, 07:23:53 PM »

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f4u1c is the only perk aircraft i ever see mixing it up in the furballs down and dirty.

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Thats cause it doesnt have "hey look im a perk-plane" Icon hangin over it.

Karnak · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2002, 07:41:42 PM »

LOCO,

That is one reason, but if the perk planes saw a few thousand sorties a month instead of a few hundred, maybe the need to gangbang the perk plane would diminish. Also, it is possible that it is a "gangbang the rare plane" deal to some degree. I have seen gangbangs form on C.202s for that reason.

lazs2 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 28, 2002, 08:50:54 AM »

The price should double if there has to be a price.

Right now, they are rare and stigmatized... That is a good thing. We have a planeset that is pretty mid/midlate war with a lot of parity. If we see a perkie ride it is usually no big deal... we can avoid it or ignore it but.... with cheaper perkies.... we will see groups of two or three perk rides in all the fights. they will ruin every chance of ac parity in every single fight in the arena. They will go way past "annoying" on into 'spoiler' class.

Why some want such an unfair advantage is beyond me. I have taken the -1C up for this tour and flown it exactly as I do the -1a... it is mediocre for that type of flying in my hands. not as good as an la7, D9 or pee 51 or a well flown nik. We allready have the nik and lag and 51 and D9 in the game. making the perkies less rare will simply ratchet the planeset up to later war.
lazs

Fatty · « **Reply #26 on:** March 28, 2002, 11:03:56 AM »

I'm with lazs, if we're going to have perks let's have some bite to the cost, not some half-hearted token toll. If you can earn it in 1 sortie, it's so cheap it's not really even worth perking.

jpeg · « **Reply #27 on:** March 28, 2002, 11:19:05 AM »

Leave the perks the way they are now.

sourkraut · « **Reply #28 on:** March 28, 2002, 11:30:52 AM »

I just don't understand why HTC is developing these planes if no one ever gets to use them (or does). Seems like a waste of valuable time.

The only perk plane I am willing to use is the C-HOG. It's cost of 8 perks is something I can live with. (Hate when CV starts manuevering on take-off though). The perk system can be very valuable IF it is applied properly - a more graduated system then we currently have.

Oh, and reset perks points every tour to something like 50 perks for all paying customers.

Karnak · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2002, 11:40:03 AM »

Laz,

Making these slightly better aircraft that much more expensive certainly does have the effect of making fights against them boring and irritating. Maybe if people were willing to actually engage in them they'd be fun to fight.

I personally don't see a real significant difference between fighting an La-7 or a Tempest, an Fw190D-9 or a Ta152H-2, a P-51D or a Spitfire Mk XIV. If I'm in a 1940 or 41 aircraft, I am going to use the same tactics against them and am going to be horribly outclassed.

Making the perks priced more in line with their performance wouldn't make top end aircraft much more common, like the F4U-1C they'd still be rare. In addition, who is to say the "Bob" the Tempset pilot would be flying a C.202 if here weren't in a Tempest? More likely Bob'd be in a La-7. Not much different.

Fatty,

Most people can't earn an F4U-1C in a single flight. I've done it, but not very often. Some people have trouble earning an F4U-1C in 8 flights. Do you really think that the perk prop fighters are that much better than the top end free fighters?