Sweden neutral? Flamest from General Discussion resumes here!

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by john9001
yes ..in 1923 we ALL knew hitler was a bad man

I did...the bastard still owes me five bucks!  And do you think I'll ever see it??

[Pongo]

How does the US ship Oil to germany via the swiss in 1942??
By dirgible? How credible is such a statement? Look at a map.
Did Standard Oil have huge reserves of oil in Switzerland that it sold off?

[Hangtime]

What would you have done? Lemme ask you this, did sweden keep selling them the ore after the allied forces were liberating france?

Nope.. but tell me this.. knowing what they did, (turned a blind eye to ideologies, showed no spine, and just sold out) when they did it and why, how is it the Swedes get to play this tune:

Target: Hiroshima Nagasaki
Dead/Missing: 70000-80000 35000-40000
Wounded: 70000 40000
Population Density: 35000 per sq mile 65000 per sq mile
Total Casualties: 140000-150000 75000-80000
Area Destroyed: 4.7 sq mile 1.8 sq mile
Attacking Platform: 1 B-29 1 B-29

And all so the stupid morons could test their new toy...

Sure, one small reason was to save US soldiers lives but main reason was testing purpose

Rasmus "Wilbus" Mattsson
Location: SWEDEN
III/JG5 Eismeer
Livestock Liberation Front

Various others from Finland, Germany, France have chimed in with similar noises.

Yah know, in 1940, England, alone; was faced with the same choice the Swedes had. Seems they came to a different conclusion; and fought. The Swedes could have.. but they didn't.

So, Tac; I'd say BY your reasoning, England should have caved, too. But they didn't. I think the entire planet owes Winston and England a big vote of thanks. Don't you?

And Sweden, with its smug sanctimonius nazi cheerleader citizenry gets no 'attaboy' points from me for 'doing the right thing'. 'Neutrality' whilst sitting in the middle of a World War is a close cousin to 'social cowardice' in my book.

YOU CANNOT ENSLAVE A FREE MAN. THE MOST YOU CAN DO IS KILL HIM.[/I]

[Toad]

...and that's the point... start throwing stones around glass houses, everyone's windows get broken, eh?

Even Swedish windows.

[fd ski]

well, their problem was that they didn't have a nice big body of water to hid behind...

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Yah know, in 1940, England, alone; was faced with the same choice the Swedes had.

Nit picking here, but I'm getting tired of seeing this.  England was not alone.

[Pongo]

Originally posted by fd ski
well, their problem was that they didn't have a nice big body of water to hid behind...

whatever. as long as they dont forget that they prostituted themselves to the nazi war effort and keep thier mouths shut about how the Allies fought the war that ended thier prostitution for them.

[easymo]

I guess those guys on Omaha beach were just confused. And hidding on the wrong side of the pond.

[Hangtime]

Ski, Neither did the Poles or the French, even the fediddlein Finns... but at least they fought.

Thrawn, England stood alone till Dec 8th 1941.

[Toad]

Commonwealth, Hang.. ya know, Canada, Australia, NZ and the others? South Africa? Ya know?

[Hangtime]

(i know.. and all of 'em Englanders by allegieance and temperment.. the 'United Kingdom', yah know?? )

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Hangtime
(i know.. and all of 'em Englanders by allegieance and temperment.. the 'United Kingdom', yah know?? )

and for those who don't know;) Canada received control over her own foreign relations at the signing of the Treaty of Westminister in (I believe) 1936.  And the commonwealth isn't a mutual defence pact.

[Nash]

Yup it's like that other guy in that other thread who thanked France and Japan and whoever else for support after 9/11... continuing to overlook that as he writes that the Canadian military is on the ground in Afghanistan shootin' into caves alongside the US (don't see any French or Japanese and whoever else there with them). Shrug....

[Thrawn]

And for yet further hijacking of the thread.  So far this century: WW1 (right from the start.), WW2 (one day after Britain), Korea, every UN Peace Keeping operation...ever, NATO duties, NATO operations in Bosnia, Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm, Current Operations in Afghanistan.

[fd ski]

Originally posted by Nash
Yup it's like that other guy in that other thread who thanked France and Japan and whoever else for support after 9/11... continuing to overlook that as he writes that the Canadian military is on the ground in Afghanistan shootin' into caves alongside the US (don't see any French or Japanese and whoever else there with them). Shrug....

That's cause media here doesn't tell you any of this stuff.

Polish troops are on the ground in Afganistan. Bet you didn't know that