Kennedy shows on history chanel

[midnight Target]

Just in case you are interested Mighty1...go here for some very informative reading.

Here is a sample......

If all the alleged facts in all the conspiracy books were true, we could expect to have the following conclusions:
The Grassy Knoll was a very busy place with many gunmen who never saw each other.
There were at least 10 individuals depicted in the photos of the three tramps.
There were at least 30 gunmen firing from 4 different buildings, the overpass, the Grassy Knoll, the South Knoll, the Presidential limo, the Secret Service follow-up car, the curb on Elm Street and the sewer.
There were at least 100 conspirators in Dealey Plaza.
These "facts" seem absurd and ridiculous but this is exactly what we end up with if we believe all of the conspiracy books which have been published. (Source: Bill Adams, "The Enemy Within")

[Sikboy]

The Moral of the Story? Don't piss off the mob.



-Sikboy

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
Not an american but the last british documentary i saw was on the lines as stated by Hangtime.....
The "Mob" got kennedy into the presidency and old man kennedy seemed to of done the deal for it
After the election the kennedy's didn't like to have to give into some "Mob" pressure and so really peed off the "Mob"
A contract was tendered to some unsavoury characters and a main one person took the offer and all the fringe benefits

This was from a prisoner in Marseille (spelling ?) prison who was doing time for a murder as i recall ? well something bad anyways

He was offered the contract but after some thought he decided it was pretty much not for him

He claimed to know the identity of the main contracted person but declined to answer as he was sure his life expectancy would rapidly deminish

Not a historian and only know general basic USA history (Boston T-Party and alike) (ps, can't any of you come and do a T-Party take 2 over in the UK for us ???)  lol

Was many years ago and maybe some other brit may remember the name of the docu (may of been a Pana programme?)

Have Fun

Def

[lord dolf vader]

the shows yesterday went into more detail, that dudes name was christian david. they showed  a american who dogged him half to death about it .
 he revealed the name of one of the 3 guys who did it  who was dead ( the other two were still living ) and gave a guy on the outside who could concur and they showed the fellow on air ( face blanked) named michele ( french also) he said they were paid in heroin and he fenced it for them.also alot of other details. the american guy who did the finding  turned this over to the drug enforcement agent  who verified there was substance to it and turned it over to the fbi . and as always it just died. he seemed pretty pissed about that as he spent three years of his life tracking these people down said fbi never did a thing really.

[Sikboy]

www.nara.gov/recent_jfk.html

Amazing what comes out after the fract.

-Sikboy

[streakeagle]

From the existing evidence and the means by which so many potential witnesses were executed,  the mob was certainly involved. However, the mob does not have the power to get the secret service to reroute the motorcade to make it an easier shot. I think the truth will turn out to be that the mob was just an instrument of much higher powers.

Almost everyone in power from the mafia to the military-industrial complex to the CIA and even LBJ himself either benefitted from JFKs death or had reasons to hold a major grudge against him. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they were all in on it together. Besides hunting down the mob, Kennedy had already interfered with the Bay of Pigs and was threatening to pull out of Vietnam.

LBJ was a shrewd power-hungry politician. I would expect that LBJ was at least aware of what was going on and allowed things to happen as they did for his own benefit. Of course there is little or no evidence beyond the smile and thumbs up he gave his secretary as he was being sworn in as President. So, anything said about LBJs involvement can be nothing more than speculation (as with most aspects of the assassination).

[Eagler]

it and his brother's hit was a message to Joe

they missed the worst one -> Ted

when the right ppl want you gone, you are gone and they will not be blamed - ever

[streakeagle]

They knew Ted would do a bettr job messing up his life than they could by killing him, so why bother?

Anyone ever see the movie "Repossessed"? Linda Blair poked fun at the Exorcist with help from the guy from Airplane/Police Squad.

In one seen, Linda Blair's family was playing with a Ouija board. Her husband aks "Will Ted Kennedy ever become President?". The game piece flies off the board and knocks over a book. The book hits a toy car. The toy car rolls off the bookshelf and lands in the Aquarium. Her husband concludes, "I'll take that as a 'no'!" that still makes me laugh just thinking about it.

[midnight Target]

and the means by which so many potential witnesses were executed, the mob was certainly involved.

Lets look at that list shall we.....not all 103 people, just a few.

5/72 J. Edgar Hoover* FBI director who pushed "lone assassin" theory in JFK assassination Heart attack (no autopsy) Kind of a stretch to place him as someone to keep quiet, especially if he was "involved"....lol and to wait 11 years???

9/73 Thomas E. Davis* Gunrunner connected to both Ruby and CIA Electrocuted trying to steal wire He was a gun runner....a voilent death is a little more likely

2/74 J.A. Milteer* Miami right-winger who predicted JFK's death and capture of scapegoat  Heater explosion Go here for a very good explanation of Milteer and his "prediction".
 
1974 Dave Yaras* Close friend to both Hoffa and Jack Ruby Murdered Ruby was a gangster...I bet he had many "friends" murdered.

7/74 Earl Warren Chief Justice who reluctantly chaired Warren Commission  Heart failure ---- Born 1891   died 1974...suspicious? NOT!

8/74 Clay Shaw* Prime suspect in Garrison case, reportedly a CIA contact with Ferrie and E. Howard Hunt  Possible cancer Nothing POSSIBLE about it......sheesh
 
1974 Earle Cabell Mayor of Dallas on 11/22/63, whose brother, Gen. Charles Cabell was fired from CIA by JFK  Natural causes So he had no real connection to the assasination, and he died of "natural causes"...then why is he on the list?

6/75 Sam Giancana* Chicago Mafia boss slated to tell about CIA-mob death plots to Senate Committee Murdered Mob boss murdered!!?? what are the chances??

7/75 Clyde Tolson J. Edgar Hoover's assistant and roommate Natural causes Natural causes.....everyone dies, and everyone makes the list...LOL

1975 Allen Sweatt Dallas Deputy Sheriff involved in investigation Natural causes see above

12/75 Gen. Earle Wheeler Contact between JFK and CIA Unknown biography sites mention that Gen. Wheeler probably helped get us involved in VietNam, but his death is never mentioned....makes me wonder if it was in fact "unknown".

1976 Ralph Paul Ruby's business partner connected with crime figures Heart attack Heart attack, 13 years after the fact....not very good at shutting him up were they?

4/76 James Chaney Dallas motorcycle officer riding to JFK's right rear who said JFK "struck in the face" with bullet Heart attack see above

4/76 Dr. Charles Gregory Governor John Connally's physician Heart attack yawn

6/76 William Harvey* CIA coordinator for CIA-mob assassination plans against Castro Complications from heart surgery same-o same-o

7/76 John Roselli* Mobster who testified to Senate Committee and was to appear again Stabbed and stuffed in metal drum LOL.....another "unexplained death"

[Hangtime]

Midnight, I have no inside knowledge outside of the public domain of what actually happened.. and it's a pretty safe bet you ain't on an inside track either.

But, assuming you looked at the same evidence the Warren Commision looked at, and with a clear consience come to the same conclusions.. well; there's a bridge in brooklyn that's still for sale... cheap. Intrested?

if you think one shooter, firing one shot accomplised what Lee Harvey Oswald is credited with... well; nevermind.

[easymo]

First rate marksmanship, whoever did it.

[Hangtime]

henh.. not really easy. 220 yards to the depository window, 185 to the knoll. Either one of us coulda done just as well drunk off our tulips with open sights and an m16.

[easymo]

Not sure I could have made it.

Combat range (more or less). Not a problem.

Clear field of fire.

Lighting.  Ideal.

Firing position supported.

Wind factor minimal. But,

Assuming a firing position from the rear, or the side.  The only kill shot you have is a head shot.(Armored vehicle).

Target was in motion.

Using an old bolt action, wop POS.

Big time pucker factor. He WAS the President of The United States after all.

I'm not so sure.  Would have to have been a BIG payday.

[Hangtime]

did I mention.... drunk?  

[lord dolf vader]

once after reading a story about the carcicano bolt action claimed to be used in the assasination. i looked for one at the local gun show. i found 2 one for 60 bucks and one for 80 both looked like they had hardly ever been shot but the bolts literaly rattled when closed  ( somthing i have never seen on any other rifle . they are famously inacurate even according to the guys selling them ( the next lowest rifle either had was in the 150 buck range it is the king of crap ). no way 3 shots 3 hits in 7 seconds i just cant believe it . and the magic bullet they put in evidence it was totaly undeformed full metal jacket is hard but crap it wasent even scratched.after going  thur a scull and a arm just way hard to believe.