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Offline ET

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I want a b24 liberator
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2002, 04:07:16 PM »
I would really like to see the B24 and the B25 in here as they both played a great role in WW2 and were produced in large numbers. It would also give us more diversity in medium and heavy bomber selection which is missing right now.

I think but do not remember for sure that later model B24s may have had a belly turret that was dropped into position after take off. I would not bet the store on that though. Maybe an aircraft scholar could check on it.

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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2002, 05:01:06 PM »
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I second JPEG's request.

I actually have a client who was a B-24 Libertaor Pilot in Europe during WWII

When I found this out, I immediately took him to lunch to pick his brain.

He said none of his gunners ever got a kill, and the worst part of flying a mission was always the Flak.

My Grand-Father-in-law was also a B-24 pilot, but he passed away years ago so I never found out much about him.


Cool! My dad flew (as pilot) B-24s (90 missions) in New Guinea, 43rd bomb group, 64th squadron. I have his logbook (which says virtually nothing about the missions, but is still interesting to browse through). He passed away in '88.

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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2002, 05:10:55 PM »
My dad (lower left) and crew in front of their B-24

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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2002, 05:12:05 PM »
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Yes I'd like to see a B24 , B25 and B29 in AH ,but not until the bombers get an Accurate FM ,not the  gameplay concession we have now.  If they do introduce a B29 I don't want it going fully loaded with bombs and fuel to 60k and still doing loops and tight turns and I'm afraid it won't be a cheap perk considering the unbalancing effect it would have.


The LW guys actually have a rare "jet bomber", and its model has actually been amended to have a rare rearward firing gun, and yet you still lobby against adding a significantly historical addition like the B-24.  

Figures, why should today be any different
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2002, 06:09:44 PM »
you spend more time whining about lw guys then anything.

No one lobbied for a 234. A 234 doesn't have that great an impact on gameplay anyway.

No one said never model a b24. Theres all sorts of other stuff that would be better for the game then another 4 eng fluff.

The buff model is supposed to be redone and if it works like I read it then hell ya b24. But theres nothing in ah that requires a b24. Not even in the ct.

a b25 or even an he 111 or a wellington or any number of other 4 eng buffs would be better becaused they add more toward the ct.

I personally think it would be better to get early mid early and mid fighters in he game 1st. The VVS and IJA/N need numerous aircraft. If its true the 4 eng buffs take much more time then fighters then keep it on the bac burner.

Not just lw guys feel this way.

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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2002, 06:28:39 PM »
Who's whining? I am just telling it like it is...Airbag:) i am just cutting through the Bull..Ogna that you spew out. I didnt say you asked for the 234. HTC modeled it and you aren't thankful it seems. A b24 would be a nice addition. I hope they model it too.

As usuall, you come up with this cockomamy logic, that only makes sense if you ar a LW fan (not all mind you)
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2002, 12:25:59 AM »
I don't know if it's bad farm animal love,or you got an STD from some tainted sheep ammo or anything of that matter but, I didn't say just NO, don't add the B-24, what I meant is that I'm all for it but,  again I don't want them doing loops at 40kft with little or  no restrictions like we have , they don't get any performance hit(because they're a  gameplay concession) not a part of the flight model.

The B-24 should be added the B25 aswell it would give me better targets for my 109 and 190, frankly  the B17s and lancs as targets  are getting kind of repetitive in nature and I'm losing interest.

In regards of the rear guns of the Arado, look it's a perk plane it's supposed to be rare in the arena. It's almost never seen, and I remember the thread where it was discussed in regard to the rear  guns for the Ar234 , I remarked  that if it had it I'm all for it if it didn't they shouldn't (BTW it was supposed to go in from the start only Superfly had some trouble with the periscope and sighting mechanism for the rear gun which was scrapped). Now that we have it,  flew the Ar234 with 20mm it does nothing more than weigh it down and maybe a would be attacker thinks twice before going on  an Ar234s tail from dead 6 so sometimes I just leave it unloaded and lighten the plane a tad.

  I didn't say anything about when they added it ? Apparently you weren't in the arena when I gave congrats to HT after the patch partly because of FPS improvements.

  So again don't try to give more meaning that what is being said there in plain text and get defensive like a 5yr old.

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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2002, 12:46:20 AM »
I think we nead another US bomber like we all nead a whole in the head.
 
 The only reasion to add another US bomber (other than a B 29) would be because it is your favorate ride, it brings nothing new to the game adds no diversity and preputates the ethnocentricity's of of our curent plane set. How about a buff for Russia,or Italy? or an Emily for Japan?

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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2002, 01:33:23 AM »
So whats wrong with wanting our favorite "ride" from WW II?. We do pay for this.    :)

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« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2002, 02:26:10 AM »
the b24 is my favorite buff and it will get used a lot in the MA

I wanted the bf110 too, everyone said: oh no its redundant cant compete  etc.

well the bf110 gets used... a lot

the b24 is far from redundant or waste of time.
it will get flown in the MA a lot!

the main reason many dont fly buffs is because there hasnt been  a new decent buff added that can haul a lot of bombs and carry a lot of guns since the b17.

only one country made such buffs and only one country used them in large quantities in daylight raids.

the US.

they had two heavy 4 engine bombers throughout most of the war:

B24 & b17

we have:
44 fighters
1 transport
8 bombers

of those 8 bombers only 2 are 4 engined heavy bombers

of those 2  4 engined heavy bombers only one has heavy defensive guns.

b24 in the MA makes sense.
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« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2002, 10:42:45 AM »
See the previous post.  I'm in full agreement.

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« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2002, 01:55:21 PM »
Plus it would be nice to hear the B-17 and B-24 squads argue on open channel:)

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« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2002, 09:51:56 AM »
Well, It should have This paint job  :)
Took this picture yesterday at Cavanaughs Museum (Addison Airport) took a load of shots inside it, my only regret is not springing for the $350 to  ride in her.
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« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2002, 01:02:57 PM »
This baby is the last flying B-24 Liberator owned by the Collings Foundation.  I'm supposing the young lady is smiling upon reflecting on the dragons tongue?
Beeg
P.S. I've got an .avi set to the Air Force Hymn where this baby is shown flying.

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Well, It should have This paint job  :)

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« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2002, 04:12:10 PM »
:D

BTW, There's another flyable B-24 at the Fantasy of Flight musem in the Orlando, FL area.

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