Author Topic: I'm really disgusted :( (Read 572 times)

Pepe · « **on:** April 21, 2002, 05:55:29 PM »

This game needs a serious fix on the numbers problem. I've been gangbanged CONSISTENTLY for the whole Sunday. Now, bish have gloriously

won the reset.... 150 B - 110 K - 50 R.......... and, you know what?, it's *no* fun.

Either HT give this a think, or this is going to be unbearable for Rookland (It's starting to be like that for me). Perhaps this is the time for 2 countries.

Oh! anyone jumping here with the usual "turn in the bucket"...just provide with stats. I've been flying almost EVERYDAY for some 2-3 hours, during last tour, and Rookland numbers were usually 80% or lower from the rest.

JoeCrip · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2002, 05:57:32 PM »

Even though i dont fly rooks, i do agree. Rooks have been really getting squashed left and right lately. As a Knight, I always try to fight the Bishops when possible, beacuse i feel soory for those poor Rooks

CyranoAH · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2002, 06:56:57 PM »

I know that on other timezones there are more rooks and the thing is more balanced, but at night (Central European Time) I have never seen rooks in enough numbers to do anything but trying to prevail.

It's hard to log onto the arena every night knowing that, no matter what, we Rooks are playing against the odds.

Perhaps it is time to start thinking about going knit or bish... just to have fun.

Daniel

Tac · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2002, 07:32:06 PM »

Yes, rooks do suck

Tub-o-lard · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2002, 07:39:24 PM »

If one team is outnumbered when the server is full you can usually still find a fight that is fairly even somewhere on the map, but try during off peak time (like evenings in australia) ... I have seen 30 odd bishes, 30 odd knights, and 10 rooks.

I have been switching teams after each map reset recently, and playing as a rook during off peak times is just painful.

Dago · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2002, 07:40:53 PM »

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Perhaps this is the time for 2

And if it changed to 2 countries, and one was getting gangbanged, would you suggest its time to go to 1 country?

This comes up every once in a while, and no, 2 countries wouldnt be any better, and most probably worse, the game would be one huge furball.

Each country has times when it is outnumbered, just grit your teeth, rise to the challenge and fight, or change countries.

dago

Staga · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2002, 08:05:44 PM »

If perk-planes would be free in a country with 5 or less bases it could motivate people to swap to there.

Swager · « **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2002, 10:18:09 PM »

I like the Rooks. When they get hammered I used to feel sorry for them until that time they left their fields open to the Bishes so the Bisholes could win the reset. I thought it was kinda lame, but the reset thing was never my bag.

mrsid2 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2002, 10:29:56 PM »

Swager if rooks left their fields 'open' with 30 players fighting 70 bish as usual, I doubt it's intentional.

I fully agree with Pepe - this situation has progressed to a level where you can't play on rook side and expect to get any normal fights. Every day the routine is to fight 5:1 against big strikes launched by a doublesized enemy.

On those few moments when numbers have been 1:1 it feels like a holiday and we start actually capturing fields. Rest of the time it's simply a struggle for survivial.

There's a reason why so many rooks log nowadays when reset gets closer - and that reason will drive them to cancel the whole subscription later, because the game is not fun to play when its downright unfair for one country.

7am my local time not offpeak hour, numbers 136 bish 129 knits 90 rooks. In 6 hours situation will be 60 bish 50 nits 30 rooks..

Rookland is moving somewhere else.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2002, 10:37:06 PM »

people have been beggin for this since day one . they arent interested.

SKurj · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2002, 11:53:28 PM »

TOWD, i recieved a nasty gram from Mage for suggesting such a thing as a method to balance the teams in AW.

I'd imagine the same problem exists in WB's too.

The basic reply (edited) was that in no way were side #'s goin to be limited because it could leave friends unable to fly together, and it could also create problems for squads.

Now I'm positive there has to be a method devised that could help balance play but what it is I do not know....

Free perk planes... won't help one bit... the gangbangers will just get to vulch 262's... the majority of players aren't too concerned with earning perks, no matter what they say as they takeoff in that spit9.

The mob rules... if they are going to hit base A4, I gonna go too!! (not me specifically) mob mentality...

tougher planes for the gangbanged... ... won't happen...

dynamic eny values based on player numbers per team... hmm .. do the players care enough for it to matter?

The only thing that comes close maybe a new strat system, which penalizes a team by having bases too far from HQ. All base resupply being based on the distance from HQ. Further away, longer it takes to rebuild without player intervention.
Lets say a generic figure of 10 minutes per sector... measured in a straight line (mebbe a b#tch to implement...)
This actually would be sorta realistic in a way...

I am looking forward to HT's new strat version in the works, maybe it will aid the little guy in some way...

Check my sig for more ideas +)

SKurj

Innominate · « **Reply #11 on:** April 22, 2002, 01:19:15 AM »

Am I the only one who's noticed that onling player numbers change more based on thier countries progress? i.e. When one side gets pounded for a few hours, and cant move up at all, people start logging off, causing the teams to become uneven.

Does a country have more players because they're winning, or are they winning because they have more players?

mrsid2 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2002, 02:48:48 AM »

Innominate that happens too..

But for some reason it's like an unwritten rule that there are at least 20% less rooks online all the time compared to the two other countries.

Even more often we see numbers with biggest country having double the amount of players compared to rooks. That's the time when the big country starts launching big missions to rook bases. Sure it looks great to have 15 B26's and escort fighters attacking an enemy field with 3-4 low altitude defenders.

Makes great snapshots for the squad webpage.

Makes a good fight? no.

Durr · « **Reply #13 on:** April 22, 2002, 03:08:11 AM »

There was a time when we knights had this problem of low numbers. In fact, we hardly had any numbers for a long time. Now we almost have as many as the bishops, even more sometimes. By the way, when i logged on tonight, the rooks had the most online by about 10 players. It really does shift sometimes. Some squads rotate periodically which helps the balance but its just the way things are. Sometimes there will be an imbalance. This shouldnt be surprising. The only thing I can say is, if you are really concerned about your team having low numbers, try recruiting the unattached newbies and teaching them.

mrsid2 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2002, 03:15:07 AM »

Durr if rooks happen to have 10 players more when numbers are like 100+100+110 that's no consolidation to the situation rest of the day.

Like now.. Milkrunners have invaded the whole middle country and porked the hq.