Author Topic: Lets talk about France (Read 1389 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #75 on:** April 23, 2002, 06:35:23 PM »

Do you guys think that any white person who is aware of their ethnicity is a racist?

-dead- · « **Reply #76 on:** April 23, 2002, 10:32:54 PM »

Ah I forgot to ask one question:

What language do these unified Europeans with their unified culture speak?
I'm guessing Esperanto.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #77 on:** April 23, 2002, 11:00:33 PM »

What unifying language does China speak? There is no language called chinese and a common language to china.....

By your words you are trying to destroy the very existance of Europe as a area of the world, why am I even bothering with you?

-dead- · « **Reply #78 on:** April 23, 2002, 11:36:18 PM »

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What unifying language does China speak? There is no language called chinese and a common language to china.....

Err, putonghua?!? (literally translated: "common language" putong=common hua=language). You might know it as mandarin.
Not that I'm suggesting that China is unified either. Far from it. I am an equal opportunities skeptic - all nations and ethnic groups are dubious, nonsensical groupings - "granfalloons" if you will. "If you wish to study a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon."

Here are the official PRC ethnic groups:
Manchu, Korean, Hezhe, Mongolian, Daur, Ewenki, Oroqen, Hui, Dongxiang, Tu, Salar, Bonan, Yugur, Uygyr, Kazak, Kirgiz, Tajik, Ozbek, Russian, Tartar, Tibetan, Moinba, Lhoba, Qiang, Yi, Bai, Hani, Dai, Lisu, Va, Lahu, Naxi, Jingpo, Blang, Achang, Pumi, Nu, De'ang, Drung, Jino, Miao, Bouyei, Dong, Shui, Gelo, Zhuang, Yao, Mulam, Maonan, Jing, Tujia, Li, She, Gaoshan, Han.

Strangely there's no mention of Chinese. Chinese can't be a nationality rather than an ethnicity, surely?

midnight Target · « **Reply #79 on:** April 24, 2002, 10:15:46 AM »

Grunherz, so are you saying is that Europe should remain "ethnically pure"?

Curval · « **Reply #80 on:** April 24, 2002, 12:56:07 PM »

Okay....way too much to read in this post...

I just wanna put in my 0.02

I think what has happened in the French election was similar to what happened in Ontario, Canada when the NDP were elected as the provincal government about ten years ago.

Basically, a large number of people voted on an emotional "spur of the moment" basis, trying in their own small way to make a point.

Problem was...waaaaaay to many people did the same thing and when everyone woke up the next morning lo and behold they had "accidentally" voted the NDP into power.

Four years later (and almost a doubling of the provinial debt) they were chucked out in a landslide.

I'm really not a huge fan of the French, as Straffo knows, but I wouldn't want to think that they are racists at heart. They didn't like me over there because they thought I was American though...which is somewhat xenophobic in my opinion.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #81 on:** April 24, 2002, 01:06:02 PM »

No Tahgut, not ethincally pure like lets say Japan which is 99.6% Japanese ethnicity. But I dont quite want europe to be multicultural like the USA, I want it to have traditional european cultures and languages. If thats offensive or insensitive to you than so be it. I think its important to preserve that.

midnight Target · « **Reply #82 on:** April 24, 2002, 02:17:21 PM »

But the culture and the language have NOTHING to do with ethnicity.
To be a "proper" Frenchman, do you need a big nose and white skin? Or do you need to speak the language and know and be part of the history of your Country.

Now imagine 200+ years from now. All French peoples are semi-brown and semi-oriental looking. They still speak French, and still can name the Louis' up to number XVI. They still make excellent wine, and they still lose every war (except to the Italians). Are they less French?

-dead- · « **Reply #83 on:** April 25, 2002, 02:03:19 AM »

Here's a little info on the origins of the "99.6% pure" Japanese ethnicity I dug up for your entertainment and edification:

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One theory has been that waves of immigrants from China and Korea quickly displaced the Jomon people and their culture in about 300 B.C. They ushered in the Yayoi period, which emphasized rice-paddy cultivation and whose people looked more like today's Japanese.
In the last decade, a growing body of skeletal, DNA and linguistic analysis has suggested that modern Japanese are the product of both Jomon people and the Yayoi immigrants from China and Korea -- and perhaps other population infusions as well.
Satoshi Horai, a scholar, argues that modern Japanese are a mix of about 35 percent Jomon and 65 percent Yayoi. That would mean that Japanese are descended mostly from Chinese and Koreans but also have an important Jomon component.
[Source: The New York Times / by Nicholas D. Kristof - April 11 1999 ]

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Even the emperor of Japan now admits to being part Korean:
The Emperor's New Roots

Mmm a 99.6% pure mix of 65% immigrants from Korea & China, 35% the Jomon people & a possibly a few others.

-tronski- · « **Reply #84 on:** April 25, 2002, 06:23:27 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
From now on anyone who ever accuses me of racism will then be accused of acting out homosexuality, witchcraft, child molestation, and of an allegiance to the devil.

Well that seems to apply to all the Catholic priests willing to enagage you in the merry-go-round of your logic.

AS for the French Govt, they lost any (which was very little anyhow, I still remember Mururoa nuclear testing) respect I had when I heard they are considering building an airport over the somme battlefield. Hopefully some common sense will be shared amongst the french. Hopefully Straffo is the norm, not the exception.

Tronsky

handy · « **Reply #85 on:** April 25, 2002, 03:30:50 PM »

If you disagree with the left you are a racist, bigot,and homophobic. These tolerant liberals can accept murder rape, pillage and arson and defend it. But if you disagree with them and utter words they find politically incorrect they will try to destroy you personally and professionally. I think maybe the founders of this nation had experienced this type of thing before and the 2nd amendment to the constituion was born.. hmmm
Oh that's right the left doesn't like that one either ? I think the right to bear arms is a symbol of freedom that the left just can not tolerate. For those in Europe and almost every other country for that matter, the right to defend yourself and your property is gone. Tell me this, when that right is gone are you really a free man? I think not at that point you exist at the whim of some politician that may want your daughter or your wife or you land.

OH BTW the French split there vote on the splinter trotskyite parties that promised to outlaw private property. So have no fear they did not get the choice they have now because the majority are conservative, quite the contrary.....

midnight Target · « **Reply #86 on:** April 25, 2002, 03:55:15 PM »

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These tolerant liberals can accept murder rape, pillage and arson and defend it. But if you disagree with them and utter words they find politically incorrect they will try to destroy you personally and professionally.

If this is troll bait I appluade your Elfenness. If you are serious I just have to say I never once defended pillage.

handy · « **Reply #87 on:** April 25, 2002, 05:15:04 PM »

Didn't the left split there vote in France among a couple of trotskyite parties and the green party. Voting there conscience so to speak and figured they would vote for the Socialist in the run off? As I understand it one of the splinter parties ran on a platform of outlawing private property? Sounds like the late USSRs idea of,TheNewMan, private property denotes capitalist greed.... hmmm Oh well our green party is communists too.