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Offline SlapShot

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« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2002, 10:19:56 AM »
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Collisions should be mutual, REGARDLESS of what the other person saw.  I'm really getting sick of these people who play on what seems like 14.4 modems, warping, and hitting me, and then continuing on like nothing happened.  The collision should kill both people, not whoever has the best connection.

I understand how collisions work right now, the point is that it shouldn't work that way.  If one person gets a kill from a collision, he should be guarenteed to die as well.  Nobody should ever WIN a collision.  Either remove the ability to win them, or remove them completely, either way works, although mutual collisions would probably go a lot further to make people think twice about HO's.


You DO NOT understand IMHO. If you do understand the concept, then you would not ask for mutal death REGARDLESS.

One more time ...

If you slam into me on your FE then you die.

If I break off the HO on you, on my FE, I do not die.

You are in control of your plane and have every opportunity to avoid the HO scenario and if you enter into the HO scenario then live with the possible circumstances.

It is my experience that if you stay with the HO after the opposing plane is D 1.0 and less, then a collision will most likely be the final outcome.
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« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2002, 02:16:04 PM »
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Zaphod,
What you described could only happen if BOTH player's FEs read the event as a collision (which is possible).  In that case, however, both FEs would show a collision and both planes would be destroyed.  If one player has a bad connect, crashes into the other, 2 seconds later the event is reported to the other player's FE, it's too late.  That guy already crashed on his FE.  Perhaps the kill may be awarded to the guy with the slower connect, but they both would die.  (I think)

eskimo


I'm not sure either Eskimo2 :).  I was speculating more than commenting from any source of real knowledge......and hoping for clarification and comments.  I'm kinda hoping that someone who knows will read both our posts and tell us which one is right so we know :) I'll bet that if your right in this situation then Wotan is entirely correct in that the other guy never even saw a collision on his FE...just a near miss or something like that.  It's hard sometimes to realize that what I see isn't what the other guy sees.  Probably if the collision is a result of what appears to be an intentional ramming then the other guy was likely just going for a very close merge (and/or HO).  Again......I'm just guessing on this.

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« Reply #62 on: May 23, 2002, 02:59:55 PM »
Eskimo is correct in his assesment.

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« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2002, 03:05:52 PM »
And on a side note it realy comes down to which will people find less frustrating, because there realy isn't a perfect solution.

1. Dieing to a collision when the bad guy is as far as 300 yards from you.

2. The bad guy not dieing when you collide with him.

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« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2002, 03:19:13 PM »
HiTech ... leave it just the way it is ... its the only logical  way to handle it. There is no other way to look at it. I don't want to die, if I avoid the HO. Everybody is basically in control of their own fate in AH.

If the cause and effect are a know entity, and understood (most imporant part), then the results can be dealt with.
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« Reply #65 on: May 23, 2002, 04:20:22 PM »
No plans to SnapShot.

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« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2002, 08:53:28 PM »
Everyone keeps talking of collisions in HOs.  Most of the collisions are in scissors or high speed passes from the rear or sides.

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« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2002, 09:45:38 PM »
Thanks ... HighTek ... :D
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« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2002, 08:12:23 AM »
Any Time SlapSnot:D

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« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2002, 08:23:57 AM »
"No plans to SnapShot."

Thank effing Cod. I'm book marking this topic for future referal for the bi monthly inquests that seem to come along. :)

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« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2002, 10:55:36 AM »
My pleasure ... LOWTech ... :D
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