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Offline Tac

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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2001, 05:55:00 PM »
Your N1k can pick up sheep?

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2001, 06:53:00 PM »
If you are still having trouble with the Chog and nikki shooting you down, maybe you should think of moving to a flight sim that matches your ability, AW, FA2 or some box sim of some sort.

Back to Samu1's original post:  I agree this is a harsh community.  I can accept it and live with it because the unruly ones really won't last as they are the ones that will move on when the next sim comes around.  Samu1, as time passes I think you will wittiness a change in the community to the better, it just takes time for the obnoxious ones to get their kicks and move on to fresh pastures.

Long live the VMF525, sure miss them!!!  I hope they get tired of brand "w" and move to AH!!

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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2001, 07:05:00 PM »
yeah I agree. too much whining.

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2001, 04:59:00 AM »
Easymo: It's that no other plane has the combination of performance that the N1k does.
I also agree with Santa, the torque effects are too small in general..

I've found that there's only a small group of people who fly n1k regularly, and a huge majority who hate the POS.

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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2001, 05:19:00 AM »
This thread is about behaviour in AH. Chog/Nik1 whiners please go elswhere and not try and hijack this discussion.
Sumu1: I agree completely although I found the immature grizzling, moaning and personal vendettas just as bad in AW as it is here. I too would like to <S> my occasional kills but the amount of juvenile rubbish on Ch1 means the text buffer scrolls so fast I risk missing important country/squad messages. So I squelch it as soon as I enter the game.
It would be nice if there was a moderator online who could mute these people if they didn't respond to a warning, but then some would end their accounts rather than modify their behaviour - and AH is a business like any other.  
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2001, 07:17:00 AM »
Well said samu1 .

I see your from UK and since I have been online ( 3 years ) have only meet one person that I didn't like from England .

I truly wish that was the case for the US  

I think BBGunn made a good point about the TV shows . Personally I hate Jerry Springer type shows .

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2001, 08:29:00 AM »
Didn't you know airspro, all us English are nice, its in the genes  

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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2001, 09:24:00 AM »
Nice post samu1,
I still beleive in "trying" to salute all who shoot me down (that one keeps me busy ) and those who I shoot down.

There are few that don't respond in kind but the majority do and that is good. I think we will all eventually reach a point where we, as a comunity, will be able enjoy the "fun" of flying together and against each other and most of those who have lost the fun factor move on to other interests.

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2001, 09:33:00 AM »
This is a long post and I'm not sure if it even makes much sense after reading it.. but here it goes anyway  
I played AW for 3 years and I never was a very good pilot, but I developed alot of real friendships there and this is what I really enjoyed about the game. Joining a squad (the CMC) was one of the best things I ever did. I will never forget those Thursday nights in the Officers club waiting for our next mission. We talked about things other than the game. I knew things about everyones personal lives.
I did notice one thing. I mostly flew in the FR arenas, and there it seemed that everyone was very chivalrous.. If I went to the RR arenas, well, there is where I noticed a major drop in maturity level  .. With one exception. It seemed to me that anyone in a squad usually conducted themselves very well. This was a common factor.
But getting back to AH. I am currently not a paying member due to financial .. well.. problems.. I will be when I get my SH## together..
Here is what I noticed about AH when I did fly in the regular arenas: I saw alot chatter on channel one, yes, but there also was alot of chivalry. I mean, it was all mixed up, but it was there. Amongst the name calling as the text buffer scrolled by there were many "good kill" and "<S>" messages... I noticed also that the better flyers usually were the polite ones. I remember Frenchy once handing my bellybutton to me on a platter after "toying" with me for many minutes on the deck.. and immediately saying "good flying" and then talking to me about what I should have done differently. This has always been my experience with the better flyers here. Even if I do something like run away from a fight, or HO someone.. It seems like the better pilots accept this as part of the game and don't whine about it.
I was thinking about what is missing in AH that AW had, as far as the community. The only thing I can think of is that generations have changed. This is not meant to sound elist, but when I first joined AW, most of the flyers were a little older and were REAL BIG WW2 fans, or so it seemed. I think today, the alot of the people playing are looking for the "shoot em up" WWF DOOM type game..I don't know.. maybe it's me..
Since at this time I'm not a paying member, I'm not sure how the scenarios are going, but this was one thing I REALLY liked about AW. I also think that in AW, more attention was paid to supplies and this added an interesting aspect to the game..
I really think that in time, the people causing all the trouble will get tired of paying $30 for getting killed constantly, and that group will slowly fade away..
Who knows

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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2001, 09:54:00 AM »
the arena creates the attitude.  the more importance you place on "winning" the more pissy most people get.  

The less action in an arena the more pissy most people get.

if you make an arena that is late war cntric and involves something really dumb like say a perk system.... people will fly cautiously and kills will be mostly of the "gangbang or be gangbanged" variety.   kills will be farther apart and therefore more frustrating  for both those who get killed and those who have a kill "get away".

poor gameplay like say punitive strat causes hard feelings and exacerbates the above.   even the most even tempered get frustrated and uptight with the current setup.
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2001, 09:55:00 AM »
<S> Sam! Good post!
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2001, 05:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2001, 10:52:00 PM »
<Doddering ol' Bullethead wakes from his doze, wipes the drool from his chin, blinks a few times, and decides the whippersnappers need settin' straight.>

Listen up, sonny.  I dunno about this "good ol' days of love and sharing" crap.  T'weren't no such thing.  It was really like this:

I started flyin' DOS AW way back in '94, when even WB (then called CK) was still an itch in ol' HT's pants.  AW at that time was about 7 years old an' had deep traditions of Hate an' the ol' Dark Side.  In them Ancient Days of Gods an' Heroes, ch 1 in the RT arena (now called FR) was filled with bile.  A lot of it was about HOs (which were possible in AW back then) and doing cheat moves like spin turns, too.  So nothin's new there.  Only thing that changed along the way was AW finally caved-in to the whiners an' did away with HOs, but they still had the spin moves and porked planes to spew about on ch 1.

An' it t'weren't just in the arena where the Hate flowed neither, it was everywhere pilots got together.  The G*sux message board, for example.  An' the vitriolic spew on alt.games.air-warrior was weapons-grade.  An' o'course the raw HATE poured out on the mailing lists during DoK's scenarios was beyon' belief.  Where d'ye think his "Hate Page" came from?  Hell, the Hate was even an advertised feature cuz back then, pilots could take it.  Not like the momma's boys of today. <spit>

Now all the Old Gods of DOS AW, guys who been flyin' an' Hatin' online 10 or 15 years, are building and flying AH.  So what the Hell d'ye expect, roses on your birthday?

I'll tell you what the difference is 'tween then an' now.  It's that back then, the Hate was an accepted nacher'l part o' the game.  Ye'd try an' get under the bastid's skin, so he'd go berserk an' be easier to kill again, so he'd get more berserk, an' so on, until you made him log off in ego meltdown an' throw his joystick agin' the wall!  Jus' another weapon ye had.  T'weren't none of this whinin' 'bout verbal "personal attacks" like y'see all the dam' time in these sorry latter days, no sirree, cuz the whole point o' the friggin' game was to personally attack an' KILL the bastid.  So ye learned ACM an' ye learned how to Hate.  All part o' the game.  Iffen some whinin' dweeb'd suggested havin' moderators, he'd a'been tarred an' feathered by the community, with the Kesmoids leadin' the pack, I don't doubt.

That's not to say it t'weren't a tight community back then.  Pilots'd get together for a few drinks now an' agin withou' killin' each other for real, mostly.  Sorta like a temporary truce, but Gawd help anybody flyin' durin' the Con.  An' iffen some pilot had a personal disaster, everybody'd chip in, even his Most Hated Enemas.  Cuz the Hate was part of the GAME, an' most o'us, we knew it was only a game, mostly.  But the game was WAR, an' we was for dam' sho' gonna win it even if we couldn't capture but 3 outta 10 or 20 fields on the whole map, so we always wore our warpaint an' bloody scalps on the battlefield, which was pretty much anywhere we might meet the enemas.

I'll tell ye somethin' else 'bout them High an' Far Off Days, too.  T'weren't none o' this BS salutin' ev'ry friggin' kill an' killer--that don' mean nothin' 'ceptin' you can't tell a good pilot from a dweeb.  Back then, to get a salute, ye had to EARN it by puttin' up a decent fight.  Iffen ye didn't, all ye heard on ch 1 was how ye died like a dweeb, an' ye were 'spected to respon' with "BITE ME!"

Iffen ye want politeness 'tween opponents, or the payin' o' false respect ye don' really mean nor deserve ev'ry time somebody scores, then don' play a game where the object is killin' an' bombin' the enemas off the face o' the earth.  Genocide ain't  meant to be pretty.

That's all I got to say.  Now where'd I put my dentures?  Snorkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zz

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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2001, 12:24:00 AM »
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<Doddering ol' Bullethead wakes from his doze, wipes the drool from his chin, blinks a few times, and decides the whippersnappers need settin' straight.>

Byte me graybeard....

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2001, 12:58:00 AM »
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Byte me graybeard....

Eh?  Maybe there's hope for this generation yet.  But put some real HATE into it, sonny.  There's no teeth in your "byte".

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