Author Topic: Repetition brings boredom  (Read 862 times)

Sturm

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« on: April 22, 2001, 11:48:00 PM »
I cannot believe I am even saying this but I am getting bored in AH.  I look at the vast planeset and think wow this will be fun.  Well it changes very much so once in the MA.  I don't squeak about how one plane's guns are stronger then the other.  What I am getting bored with is shooting down only 3 types of fighters.  

Something has to be done to encourage flying the other models.  The perk value isnt working, most dont care about the perk value for they allready have 2000+ PP's.  Maybe it is this map but the last map at least I saw a few other variants.  I will wait and see how the next patch is, but if this continues I will go somewhere else.  I don't see spending 30$ a month and fighting 3 planes or 3 bombers.  Maybe having all the planes open for eveyone instead of country orineted is a bad idea?
   

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2001, 11:55:00 PM »
I see a fair number of spits, macchi's, little spits, zekes and such.. but when I'm inna furball these 'lesser planes' don't command my intrest if a N1K or F4U is present. Frankly; you gotta start at the high end of the food chain and work yer way down, or fer sure that N1K or Chog will smack yah down if yah start turning on the macchi.

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2001, 02:22:00 AM »
 
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Maybe having all the planes open for eveyone instead of country orineted is a bad idea?

Umm Sturm, this is the ACES HIGH BBS.  The bulletin board for the Warbirds WW2 arena is thataway ------------->

Sorry.. just do not understand your post at all!

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2001, 02:42:00 AM »
Never flown Warbirds before.  My point is the I am getting bored of flying against 3 types of planes in fighter sweeps.  I don't think that is to hard to grab from the post.  I do not see anything wrong with suggestions either.  It is quite funny this group here are quick to ridicule, but then again this is coming from a group that loves the N1k "This FM is very screwed up", Spit IX, and Chog.  

I am sorry if you think fighting 3 planes is fun, but it is getting boring for me.  Flame away, well try to, one thing you guys need to work on.  


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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2001, 03:25:00 AM »
Well Sturm, its only been a month and you're already burned out?  

Sturm6:
Time hh:mm:ss 157:18:48

moose:
Time hh:mm:ss 49:51:12

Might be the hours man, cut back a little.

Plus, watching the planes you mentioned go in in flames is always a thrill for me.

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2001, 05:05:00 AM »
Moose my time online has nothing to do with it.  My point was expressed, and the old swictharoo won't work.  Swaying the conversation from the problem to a user problem.  I don't think I am alone on this one.  But then again if you enjoy fighting just those planes more power to ya.  As I said before I will wait until the next patch, to see what is fixed.  

If I am going to spend 30$, I prefer to see more planes then just these.  Granted you will see the occasional 205 or maybe even a LA-5.  Point being it is not worth it to fly them so why should people?  Late war and early war plane sets do not match, never have and never will.  This tour is proving it.  I thought the FW 190 F-8 would be a plane a lot of LW regulars would fly.  Guess where it is now?  In the hanger, I have ideas on how to rectify this, but it is pointless.  

Just tell me what is fun about fighting Chog's and N1k's all the time?  

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2001, 05:15:00 AM »
I did cut down my "fligh time" earlier, logged in last evening, took Dora to flight, killed three enemies with it and after that logged off. Nothing new, Just same old.
 
I would like to see a alternative paying method in AH because 30$/month is too much for time I spend in MA now.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2001, 06:22:00 AM »
Sturm, I totally agree with you. But having a planeset/country oriented arena will cut the squads in half for sure.

If perk system doesnt work (and it doesnt). Perhaps limiting the available plane types and numbers at some bases could fix the problem. We already have a limitation with the CVs (only navy planes).

Other things like limiting the ammount of fuel available at bases, ordenance, etc may help. For example, filling up with 100% fuel a squad of P51D will have a more serious impact on the available fuel at base than filling up a 109F squad.
Some bases can run out of 20mm hispano ammo, of 20mm 151/20 ammo, or 50's ammo, or bombs (making buffs unable to reload there), etc.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2001, 06:34:00 AM »
I can see where AH could become repititive and get boring.  I usually fly bombers.  A normal bomber flight for me is about 1- 1 and a half hours.  I normally only get a couple days a week that I have the time to do a bomber flight. Lately I have been trying out fighters (and doing quite well at hitting the silk after being quickly filled with lead thank you)  I have found it to be quite fun even though I usually end up dead. Try flying a bomber now and then...  I suggest a B-26 lowlevel and try hitting a fleet with a few friends.  You may want to ditch the fighter for a while, it's a riot!

But, Flying a fighter I have noticed in furballs/ base captures that F4U's and N1Ks and maybe a stray P-51 or 109 are the only planes in the area.  I have seen other types chasing me in a bomber but when I joined the furball I found that I better grab one of the above or I dont even have a chance for a prayer.  

This is why I have wanted to see either a huge divided map or different arenas for the different periods of the war (early, mid, and late) which would allow the planesets to stay the same and do away with the perks or use the perks for something else.  You could fly anything you like that is available for that area or arena.  

Seperate arenas is easy but I have seen good arguements why to keep everyone in one arena like keeping the "community" together because separate arenas is a bad idea.  I don't share that thought but I have seen enough people post it that it's worth mentioning.

The other is a huge arena seperated either by distance or features.  Maybe distance would be good enough if some policys were in place to deal with offenders.  But the distance would still have to be at least 100 miles I believe.  

As for the $30 a month...  I fly about 20 hours a month in AH.  A little more than a buck an hour.  Heck a trip to Dave-n-Busters or Jillians or anywhere with the latest video games which don't even compare to AH you will spend at least $20.  If your there more than an hour or so (or take your kid with you) you will spend more.  That's about $20 an hour and you cant spend all night on the games (unless you work there I guess).

I have as much fun doing stuff with my family as I do flying online.  So I will not complain about the price.  Heck to fly a real plane (which I also do) costs about $60-$80 an HOUR with gas, and thats not for a F4U or N1K thats for a Cessna 152 or 172.  For a Warbird your talking $800-1500 or more and you dont even get to shoot anyone down. Whatta ripoff huh  ;p

 I know in some countrys the exchange rate makes it quite expensive and maybe there could be a way to help them out.  I think that that could be handled on a case by case basis through there support though???

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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2001, 06:39:00 AM »
Sturm's got a point.  I bet 80% of the planes I see are C-Hogs, Nikis, or LA-7s.

The perk system cannot function properly if the planes most pilots aspire to are not perks.  And most MA pilots aspire to planes that have killing power, and right now that seems to be the C-Hog and Niki.


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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2001, 07:20:00 AM »
 
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It is quite funny this group here are quick to ridicule, but then again this is coming from a group that loves the N1k "This FM is very screwed up", Spit IX, and Chog.  

Nice.

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2001, 07:24:00 AM »
What is needed is "Choice"...ie, a Historical Arena, or something similiar...I haven't seen less than 150 online during US time zone evenings, no reason why they couldn't open up another arena and give it a try.

I'm totally burned out on the Snap shots and Check Six events since they too use the same terrain...terrain is all about immersion to me.

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2001, 07:31:00 AM »
 
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Me thinks this has less to do with what aircraft you are seeing and more to do with the fact that you have played 170 hours in 3 weeks.

Here's a tip: Slow down and enjoy the ride.

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2001, 07:34:00 AM »
I must not be flying where every one else is   i dont think i have seen a nik all tour. i see chogs but i dont see them all the time unless i am fighting near  a cv. i can say that this is my fav map.  I love how open it is. Yes all the cvs i dont care for.  but the map itself is great. i dont understand  some of the people that posts/plays in this game, therere alot of peope that seem to play this game that hate it. i dont know about the rest of you but when i hate this game as much as some of the people i would quit.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2001, 07:51:00 AM »
Jeez Rip, how could you not post it in here too!? I mean, look at the topic  

Anyway I'll do it for yas.

Ripsnort sez:
Hmmm, my premonition comes true, you'll see by posts awhile back during the big Chog whine fest that I said "next they will whine about the N1K, and want it removed (perked, by todays standards), then, whats next? There will always be a plane that someone has to base their excuse for dying not to pilot ability, but to what the enemy pilot is flying".
I hate it when I can read the future.

FTR:Perking the Chog will only take it out of the hands of incompetent and relatively green flyers, and it will remain in the hands of very competent flyers...(After all, most of these pilots would survive, and alot have perkies built up) so your problem would be only that the newbies wouldn't be killing you anymore, you will still be getting shot down by the good pilots. However, I would support the decision by HTC to perk it if they give us the -1A.