Spit XIV ~ 60 points for that?

[BotaBing]

Just upped my first Spit XIV ~

Other than being a little bit faster than the Spit IX, and seemingly not even as stable a turner, I can't possibly imagine why I would ever spend another 60 points on it.

The idea that you are identified as "Spit14" i.e., "Come shoot me kids" is also pretty disturbing.

[Hortlund]

So dont fly it.

[Kweassa]

* It almost turns with a Spit9 though the torque is immense(which is the way it should be!)

* It is one of the fastest planes in the set excluding jet planes

* 50 calibur + Hispanos, great armaments

* climbs better than the 109s

* dives fast with tremendous elavator authority

* roll speed is mild, but good through all speeds

* accelerates like a greased pig on fire

* out turns literally everything faster than itself at sea level

* out runs, and by a great great margin, everything that turns better than itself at sea level

* excellent high alt performance

 ...

 expensive it is, but while all late war planes are perked to this criteria, it's worth every penny. Fly it pretending it is a Bf109G-10 that turns almost as good as Spit9 and has no compression issues, it's a helluva plane - literally.

[Fariz]

Just check Spit XIV k/d, and you will understand why it shall be cheaper.

If it had not perk plane icon, it would be fine. I got it up several time, and I though it is remarkable plane, it is still far from its price. It shall be reasonably cheaper, like 30 perks.

Fariz

[air_guard]

remove the perkplane icon on all perked planes exept the 262 and they can have the perk points they now have .
or lower the cost for all but the 262.

airguard

(who cannot log into the main arena for the third day on a row)

[Karnak]

Kweassa,

What do you mean by:

expensive it is, but while all late war planes are perked to this criteria, it's worth every penny.

It seems that you are saying that all late war aircraft are perked to this level.

Perhaps you forgot about the P-51D, La-7, Bf109G-10, Fw190D-9 and N1K2.  All of which entered service after the Spitfire Mk XIV and all of which are absolutely free, as they should be.  The Spitfire Mk XIV is perked, as it should be, it simply isn't worth its price.

You are right that it can outrun anything it can't out turn and can out turn anything that it can't out run.  Too bad for the Spitfire Mk XIV that it almost never sees such solo fights, it is almost always engaged with a mix of aircraft, some of which out turn it and some of which outrun it bun none that do both.  Doesn't make a difference, a Spit14 below 10K is a dead Spit14, unless the Spit pilot is outstanding or his attackers suck.

[GRUNHERZ]

"Spit14 below 10K is a dead Spit14"

Farewell to reality, eh Karnak?

[Kweassa]

Karnak,

 Sorry for the confusion. I was just comparing the Spit14 with the few late war planes that are perked with high points. Compared with the two planes that are perked simular to that level - the F4U-4 and the Tempest V - as a pure fighter Spit14 just shines out.

 I do agree it is too expensive though, even the F4U-4 and the Tempest, too. But if they are perked in 50~60 range, there's no other choice to perk the Spit14 in that range as well. <- this is what I really meant.

 Oh, and yes, I do think the P-51D, 190D-9, La-7 and 109G-10 needs a perk, too.

[Karnak]

GRUNHERZ,

Nope, not at all.

I suggest you actually look at reality.  With the Spit14 icon a gang bang formed of aircraft that can either out run or out turn the Spit14 usually forms and pretty much ensures the Spit14's death.  It also doesn't have the fuel to play footsie at 25-30k like the 20 point Ta152H-1 either.  The Spit14 has the worst K/D ratio of any perk fighter, and I don't think that is simply due to people accidently using it for base defense.

Kweassa,

I don't think it is finacially possible for HTC to perk the P-51D.  To many of their subscribers would quit if it were perked.

I don't think that any of the aircraft you mentioned should be perked.  I just think the Spitfire Mk XIV should be cheaper, 20-30ish.

[GRUNHERZ]

Karnak the Spit XIV has such bad KD because all the spit idiots fly it like a Spit IX or Spit V.  The Spit XIV is a boom and zoom plane most like a Bf109G10, which is nearly impossible to get killed in if you wanna fly to live.    

But you spittie boys just wanna turn and turn and turn, watermelon look at that the leader of this whine complained about:

"and seemingly not even as stable a turner"

C'mon if that doesn't explain it's poor K/D i dont know what does.

Basically most Spitfire users in AH don't know how to fly.

[BotaBing]

At 60 points, how would I know how it flies.

There is no way I can learn in actual combat since it takes so damn many points to even get one.

For those of us who were not playing when the perks were free, we are at a serious disadvantage in that department.

[GRUNHERZ]

Perks were never free, where do you get that idea?

PS fly a Bf109G6 or Fw190A5 or c205 to load up on perks, kill a niki or two maybe a spit of some kind and you have 15.00 perks.

No wonder you have few fighter perks, none can be earned in a PzIV or Ostwind.

[BotaBing]

How long have you been playing here? I took a long break, but last time I was playing, there was no such thing as a "perk" and I used to fly the F4U-1C all the time. It was free, and its now a perk.

[GRUNHERZ]

Since tour 7. So about 21 months give or take a week.

It seems that you meant "perks were free" as in when perk planes might have been free, well they never were- hence the term perk plane. I took it to mean perk points not planes.

Still you will never earn fighter perk points by just playing the tanks and ostwind. Which is fine if you like ground combat so much but then dont complain about perk plane cost.

[BotaBing]

F4U-1C is a perk plane, correct?

Before there was such a thing as "perk" planes, I used to fly the F4U-1C frequently. It was free, it didnt cost anything to fly it.

It is a perk plane, it used to be free.

I dont know how much more clear it can get.