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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: March 14, 2001, 10:03:00 AM »
WOO HOO, SNAP SHOTS NOW TWICE A WEEK!

This weeks Snap shot for Friday night and Sat. afternoon (US times)

TURKEY SHOOT

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Offline iculus

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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2001, 10:42:00 AM »
Cool!  I'll have to call in sick every Saturday!

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2001, 10:56:00 AM »
One of the reasons it was a turkey shoot was because the f6 totally outclassed the zero.  I certainly apreciate the effor by the cm team to get these goin on friday nite's and no one is happier than I am bout it but I think without some adjustments it's gonna be really hard to get poeple to fly axis.  As it is, the zeros are gonna get slaughtered..maybe a 60% to %40 player ratio would be a quick fix.

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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2001, 11:00:00 AM »
Errr, pilot quality had alot to do with it...and here in AH, I think the Zero's will hold their own quite well!

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2001, 11:31:00 AM »
Thats the biggest problem of any late war plane set: historical scenarios are often unbalanced. The IJN air force will probably be slaughtered in any CV battle.

Same thing will happen in Euro Scenarios with FW190As trying to intercept B17 at 25-28K. And no, Doras and Ta152s were not buff killers    

Anyway, good luck to CMs and players   Scenarios keep online flight sims alive.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2001, 11:54:00 AM »
Ahhh, in Aces High, the hellcat does'nt do so well against the zero:

Plane vs plane comparison
tour 14, f6f 23 kills, 30 deaths against the zero  

I fly the hellcat a bit, and have a tough time with those zeros  

Should be interesting, the check 6 events the last two weeks had the hellcat and the zero.  Not sure what the outcome was, but the allied did not have a huge victory   .

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2001, 12:00:00 PM »
The Hellcats got their butts kicked last weekend by Japanese...

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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2001, 12:05:00 PM »
1 reason is because the Hellcat turns better than, say, the Corsair, therefore, Hellcat pilots "think" they can turn fight a zero. Not happening. Fly the Hellcat like a Corsair and you get better results. Hellcat is a divin' SOB.

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2001, 12:05:00 PM »
Big groups of Hellcats at altitude will do far better against big groups of Zeros at altitude than one-on-one combats in the AH MA in the situations Zeros are normally used there.

I'm really shocked that Zeros would be even remotely competitive in a large scenario vs. Hellcats; wasn't at that scenario and don't know the setup, but had to have been a lot of people trying to turnfight.

Heck, back in Warbirds large Pacific scenarios, the Wildcats and P-40s (and even the P-39s when flown by great squads like the Flying Pigs) used to routinely crush the Zeros (A6M2s, of course) and the gap between the Wildcat and the Hellcat is far bigger than the gap between the A6M5 and the A6M2.

In large, realistic battles, just as in WWII, given relatively equal pilot quality and understanding of their aircraft, speed, dive ability, and durability almost ALWAYS wins.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2001, 12:18:00 PM »
to answer the question.... No... I would love to see some longer lasting furballs in the MA but....

best of luck with any scenerio thing you guys do.   I'm all for more choice.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2001, 01:23:00 PM »
I can tell you why my flight of 3 F6Fs got slaughtered last Saturday.

By the time we got launched off the CV, the enemy was already at alt over A7. Like they got a half hour start on us.

And it wasn't zeros we were dealing with, but  205s

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2001, 01:28:00 PM »
   
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Originally posted by Weave:
I can tell you why my flight of 3 F6Fs got slaughtered last Saturday.

By the time we got launched off the CV, the enemy was already at alt over A7. Like they got a half hour start on us.

And it wasn't zeros we were dealing with, but  205s

Weave

LOL, I was still talking to the CM on Ch 200 in the tower at A7 when the first bombs dropped on A7 !!!  yep, we got jipped in that scenario.  Won't be a CO for those anymore(but will participate as a flyer)...any team that gets a good 10 min jump on the other is gonna have a slight advantage!

Also noted that a one point I checked the roster, 26 enemy, and 10 friendlies...I didn't whine, I didn't cry,(I might be now!) I just did the best I could under the almost 3-1 circumstances....was fruitless in the end. I did manage 4 kills for 2 deaths though!




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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2001, 03:31:00 PM »
 
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And it wasn't zeros we were dealing with, but 205s

Hehe, 205s with alt advantage over F6Fs ...   And Zekes will always be slaughtered by medium-good F6F pilots. In the worst case the Cat pilot can always disengage.

Anyway, <S>! to those CM's who works hard to build an event.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2001, 03:38:00 PM »
What time Friday night? I always miss Saturday because of the kids.....but if it's later on Friday night I'll be there

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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2001, 03:47:00 PM »
Yeah... am I just blind?  I couldn't find a time for the Friday night event...