Author Topic: Perk the LA7 (Read 1325 times)

sling322 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2002, 10:34:23 AM »

Darn it Ammo...dont you know you shouldnt cloud a good whine with facts. You keep this up and Pyro may have to ban you from the boards.

Wilbus · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2002, 11:31:39 AM »

Well actually sling, like I said, only if the TA152 has got wep (10 minutes max) it will be able to outclimb the LA7 at 20k, and then only with about 300 feet per minute which is FAR from enough to actually extend from a plane on your 6.

Heinkel · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2002, 11:52:37 AM »

fly the 109 w/ 150 20mm rounds, you wont think the ammo load it too small then

loser · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2002, 11:58:29 AM »

yes and no......

i hate the LA7, i get killed by it alot. Even on the deck in a Spit5 (my choice of ride.) While in a buff, if i see an La7 i know im dead, but so is the La7. They always make those tarded gut runs from 6 low, and just start spraying. They always die, but usually take enough of my B17 to send it down or make it easy meat for the higher 109s.

This is the EXACT same thing that the C Hog pilots used to do.

So yes perk it just like they did the the C hog, and for the same reason.

The reason you ask?

The La7 (and the unperked chog) was an unskilled pilot's ride of getting a quick kill, and a quick death. And there is the "no" side of the argument.

How many times have you been fighting an La7 and thought.."oh nice move, this guy knows his ACM, or that is a damn good pilot"......rare to never. Sure an La7 will enter a furball and get a kill or two, but almost never make it home. That is just the kind of plane it is (or rather the pilot.) And yes it is fast and can outrun alot of planes, but the pilot will almost always flip and come back to die if the plane that is chasing it turns away.

If the La7 was perked, the majority of people who fly it would just on to the next plane that netted an easy kill and no chance for rtb...eg the N1k. Then the Spit9, then the etc etc.

My point? Let the baby have its bottle.

SirLoin · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2002, 12:46:45 PM »

Question..What is the better turner at 15k..Tempest or La7?

I would guess La7 but the Tempest might be a slightly better climber..Anyone know?..

Kaz · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2002, 12:57:06 PM »

la7 is actually a jet with a prop to hide the jet side....that thing climbs and turns really well at all alts. i think it should be perked as for the ENY values i hear that's based on how often a plane is used so apparently the N1k is more popular btw the N1k needs to have its hidden counterotating prop removed so it behaves like a single engine fighter should in stalls instead of remaining a stable gun platform.

Soda · « **Reply #21 on:** May 19, 2002, 12:59:43 PM »

Perk the La7 blah blah blah blah, same lame'o argument, blah blah blah. Perk something with poor performance over 10K, terrible fuel range, terrible ranged guns, bad stall, terrible views, not a great turner, etc... Why not discuss perking the P51D at the same time, great performance over 10K, excellent guns, excellent range, excellent views, excellent air-ground loadout.

I don't think it's the plane, I think it is the way people are fighting them. Too many people wait too long or get stupid and try to fight the La7 at the wave-tops.

-Soda
The Assassins.

Tac · « **Reply #22 on:** May 19, 2002, 01:23:34 PM »

I don't have a problem with LA7's, but I understand how its unfair to have it free when its just as fast as perked rides.

Here's what I think :

1) Perk La7 cheap, like the C-Hog. But since its ammo load and guns arent exactly like the C-Hog, make it be 2 perks cost.

2) In the same spirit, the 190D9 and Typhoon should be perked at the same 2 perk cost. They are both just as fast in both top speed and accel and even better armed than La7 (I wonder how many will try to come with an excuse to not perk those 2 heh).

Same icons for the planes would be nice. LA5 and LA7 would be "Lav" , F4U's would be F4U, 190's would read 190 (including Ta152), 205/202=Machi, etc, etc.

Hristo · « **Reply #23 on:** May 19, 2002, 01:33:42 PM »

Oh no, please don't perk it !

How else could I build up perkies unless I vulch them in A-8 ?

La-7 is a fantastic plane, but all I see are dweebiest of dweebs flying it, thus ruining a good plane.

Wilbus · « **Reply #24 on:** May 19, 2002, 01:36:35 PM »

I think Tac's idea is good, throw in the Dora, Tiffie AND the P51 aswell, all about the same, perk them cheap, all at 2 or 3 perks.

Like I said, and Tac said after me, it's quite unfair to pay 60 perks for something just to have a free LA7 outrun you.

Kaz · « **Reply #25 on:** May 19, 2002, 01:40:41 PM »

oh nooooooo shut it Tac! perk the mission plane??!?!! argggggggghhhh!!

hmmm d9 you say? never flown it i'll look into this 190 dora

well if the tiffie is to be perked that radiator prob would have to be fixed first. the whole plane seems to be a radiator oh btw the yak too! think the yak is worse any hit is a radiator hit on the yak

well tiffie can't be perked coz umm it's not a late model plane and as i understand it those are the planes that are perked coz they umm unbalance the game yeah that's it

GunnerCAF · « **Reply #26 on:** May 19, 2002, 01:56:34 PM »

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MuadDib of Dune · « **Reply #27 on:** May 19, 2002, 02:51:01 PM »

Im really quite surprised the whole perk system hasnt matured more.

When the CT had a full plane set with most all planes given some perk value it had a very nice effect (plus it brought in 60-70 pilots). Granted, the CT basically became a mini-ma but it was a blast.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 19, 2002, 03:32:33 PM »

My P38 got 25 of them for only 7 deaths

Them dweebs are mostly an easy kill, don't run for them fight em.

I can't find a reason to complain except that it's alot flown just like the nik and spit.

Spit nik and la 7 pilots got no imagination and go with the crowd
they are just unoriginal flying dweebs.

But i wonder why these little planes are so good at high alt i mean turning and energy saving like for example the spit still is able to turn around a long winged p38 and catch up with it

Kaz · « **Reply #29 on:** May 19, 2002, 03:44:55 PM »

that's what the spit was designed for and that's one of the reasons it has only 1 flap setting. it's such a great turner besides Bug you should know better

"out turn those you can and out run those you can't" i believe was the quote

take the spit vertical....i just realised that i'm giving advice to someone who is waaaaaaay better than me air-to-air lol my apologies can i get a ride along?