Author Topic: Perk the LA7 (Read 1312 times)

Viper17 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 19, 2002, 04:08:28 PM »

The reason the guns are so killer is that they are 23mm. NOT the 20mm we see displayed. Think IL2 Type 3 cannon in athe nose. If you use 2 you are useing a La7 from Moscow and if you use the 3 cannon armiment you arte useing a diffrent place where it was biult.

(my spelling sucks)

Wilbus · « **Reply #31 on:** May 19, 2002, 04:50:18 PM »

Not to mention outturning and outclimbing the TA152 at 36k+ Bug (spit).

As for the LA7, it turns pretty well and many planes can't really outturn it, nor can you outrun it, I really don't see a reason to perk an TA152 (which is worse in EVERY aspect) not even the F4u-4 and Spit 14 should be perked compared to it.

People say it sucks above 10k? Does it? No it doesn't, it's down low where it is best though and it is down low that 95% of all fights are but a LA7 can easily get up to 20k and B&Z from there. Yes most pilots that fly them suck (some are actually good pilots and can fly other planes aswell) however to fly a perk plane, bug out and get away from 5 enemies (which is the way it should be with a perk plane "get everybody on you but be able to run somewhat") and then have this LA7 come in and catch you and make you turn. You just realise that his is free and faster.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 19, 2002, 05:21:42 PM »

Thx Kaz u make me blush now

but the spit wich loses it's power above something like 20K is very able to out climb my P38 at 25K and above . When u do the slightest climb (after u see ur gaining distance) those high manouvrables gonna outclimb u at these altitudes. I just think it's a bit strange since the P38 and Ta are large wingspans wich should help at higheraltitudes think off the U2 low it's not a turner but high up it's doing it maybe better than a falcon. Iheard pilots found it a very manouvrable aircraft at 60000ft or so.

Also the P38 and certainly the Ta got more engine powerhigh up there.
Just my thoughts about it.

Wilbus the Ta-152 is beautiful and to expensive it should cost what about the Chog is .

I totally agree on that part

Wilbus · « **Reply #33 on:** May 19, 2002, 06:30:29 PM »

Aye Bug!

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #34 on:** May 19, 2002, 07:34:47 PM »

Perk the La7?

LOL! No.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Creamo · « **Reply #35 on:** May 19, 2002, 08:18:35 PM »

No, because it could never kill you unless you made a mistake I'm sure. Just ask Nath.

Il-2 is modelling it on the expansion. Can't wait to compare flight models.

-ammo- · « **Reply #36 on:** May 19, 2002, 08:33:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Well, as long as the TA152 has got wep it climbs about 300-400 feet better at 20k, without wep it climbs slower.

Wil, man the Lagg doesnt even have an effective wep at that altitude. And, it is a slug up there. My squad looks at 20k+ la7's as snacks in the Jug. The TA is a premeir plane at those alt's and higher. Its no comparison. Its total BS IMO. The Lagg is awesome at low altitude, where its supposed to be, and likely where 99.9% of the fights you and I meet them at. The TA is not the jewel you would like it to be at low alt's, however I doubt it is bad as I have have gathered. And...to counter your statement, the TA has an extremely effective WEP, that outlast most others on other AC. Even if one found himself in a duel at 20k+ with an LA7 and him in a TA, you hold all the cards. Turn, speed, climb... This is the fallacy behind minus's statement. (I think?? its hard to tell what he is saying alot of times)

Creamo · « **Reply #37 on:** May 19, 2002, 08:43:06 PM »

My squad looks at 20k+ la7's as snacks in the Jug.

Very true and a very good example I found of obvious solid code, verified when I tried one up there. They simply are great below 10K.

More stuff about WWII air combat you learn in AH, not the casual enthusiast learns on the History Channel.

Pongo · « **Reply #38 on:** May 19, 2002, 09:01:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Creamo

More stuff about WWII air combat you learn in AH, not the casual enthusiast learns on the History Channel.

Wow...what a susinct statment....The most addictive thing about this game to me is what I learn from it

Fariz · « **Reply #39 on:** May 19, 2002, 09:26:42 PM »

La7 is a low alt plane, no doubt. At 20k it is nothing but a target. 0-8k it shines. Keeps verticals as good as 109g10, can prove its own in turnfights, has lot of ammo and very good punch, and if in trouble can run.

Fariz

Karnak · « **Reply #40 on:** May 19, 2002, 10:48:36 PM »

BUG_EAF322, Kaz,

The Spit's wing loading is much, much less than that of the P-38. Long wings mean jack squat in and of themselves. Long wings typically mean lower wing loading that shorter wings, but that comparison is only reliable if you stick to the same airframe.

BTW, I recommend that you read up on Spits. The F.Mk IX, HF.MK IX and Mk XIV all have very good high altitude performance, your P-38 doesn't rule the roost alone. The Spit IX in AH is the F.Mk IX, not the common LF.Mk IX.

Spatula · « **Reply #41 on:** May 20, 2002, 01:50:52 AM »

I thought the premise of perking planes was based on how unbalancing the plane is/would be in the MA. So then the real question is, is the La7 'Unbalancing'???

Lets look back at what statistics HTC used to decide to perk the chog. It racked up over 30% of the Air-to-Air kills in the MA. That was considered unbalancing and so it was perked.

So whats the stats on the La7??? Anyone?

Blue Mako · « **Reply #42 on:** May 20, 2002, 02:04:42 AM »

All I see here is a witch hunt. "BURN THE LA7! BURN IT!"

If you put down your torches for a minute you will realise that the La7 is a good plane but not a great one. If you get killed by one it's usually because YOU messed up, not just because it's an La7.

"What else does wood do?" "It floats!"
"What else floats?" "Small stones!"

m0m0yama · « **Reply #43 on:** May 20, 2002, 02:11:42 AM »

It says ;
La-7 has 14169 Kills
All models have 264765 Kills of All
So La7 has 18.7% of all kills... correct?

Fully agreed with Tac

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #44 on:** May 20, 2002, 02:46:07 AM »

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Originally posted by m0m0yama
So La7 has 18.7% of all kills... correct?

Uhhh... no.

It has about 5.4% of all kills. Care to rethink your position?

-- Todd/Leviathn