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Offline KG45

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2002, 08:56:27 PM »
think of AH as AW on steroids.

as a former AWer, i've had no real problem w/ the full realism flight model of AH.

also the terrains are awesome. not just a flat plain with a few mountains. i esp. dig the mindanao map, using the valleys to avoid radar and fighters.

lots of AW orphans here. unfortunately my old squad, the C-HAWKS has succumbed to the 'evil doers' at CRS and plays WWIIOL.

AH rocks.
all you fascists, you're bound to lose...

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2002, 09:27:25 PM »
If you flew in the AW FR arenas at all,you'll do fine here.
Blackouts are more progressive(instead of AW's nearly instant blackout),and departure into a spin has a better feel...you can ride the stall better here IMHO.

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2002, 10:11:40 PM »
I played Aw about 4 years. After AW died, I joined AH and after a few months I feel that this game is better that AW.

I feel that any AW Vet that gives AH a good shot will melt right in. I dont think any other online WWII game can approach the level of AH.

Hope this helps

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2002, 11:18:28 PM »
sirch,

if you want some advice spend a few weeks shooting drones in offline mode before you start your 2 week trial. I did this because I was waiting for an internet connection and it has made a HUGE difference to how much I enjoyed the game, I was able to get a few kills right from day 1, and I have been hooked ever since.

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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2002, 08:42:35 AM »
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If you flew in the AW FR arenas at all,you'll do fine here. Blackouts are more progressive(instead of AW's nearly instant blackout),and departure into a spin has a better feel...you can ride the stall better here IMHO.


Are you saying AH is more realistic?

After fly at AW FR for 3 years and 3 years more at RR arenas. I feel AH is between both. It's more difficult that RR arenas and more easy that FR arenas.
Of course, better graphics, better ammo choices, convergence exist here, worst fuel choices (i want to put my plane 99% fuel what is the problem too difficult?), better damage model (worst that Il-2), worst community that at AW FR (90% people don't respect 1 poor low guy between 2 or more enemies for exemple, result quake arena with wings), if you employ german planes at AW you will have a problem here, some planes breaks aerodinamic's law (la7,nikis,spits and near all buffs). And you will love be killed for a ground vehicle or buff gunner about 2k distance when only thing you could do is look him, better patches that AW, more advanced planes that fly (WHERE IS KI84? ;) )

Personal conclusion: a global better game that AW with some mistakes, for me that mistakes are easy to avoid but seems some AH veterans begin to emigrate IL-2 because thay hate Quake games and there is where AH is going.

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2002, 08:50:24 AM »
Read it again...it MAY be more realistic,but what I'm saying is essentially the same thing you are,that AWIII FR is a more difficult FM.I was just trying to be diplomatic,and not start a flame war.

 Having said that,I prefer the Aces High flight model.;)

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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2002, 09:05:03 AM »
Golly akak, I was just giving credit where credit was due. :p

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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2002, 09:43:55 AM »
AW invented Kurt Tank.

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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2002, 10:48:52 AM »
Welcome sirch,

As to harder or easier than AW FR, I think AH is just different. Easier in some ways, but with the more complex physics in AH there seems to be more to learn all the time. AW FR had a flight model that was masterable IMHO, while AH is more realistic (Not necessarily harder).

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2002, 10:50:34 AM »
Rat... sure in AW you could set fuel to 99% but guess what !!  that fuel weighed the EXACT same as 95% 92% 90%! +)
realism?

I think AH's choices of 25 50 75 100 is perfectly fine..

La7 breaks laws of aerodynamics?  prove it...
La5 is an uber ride in IL2, wait til the La7 appears +)

Gangbang is just as prevailent in AH as in AW, the only difference in AW was longer fronts enabling a player to escape the gangbang and find a fight elsewhere.
worst community that at AW FR (90% people don't respect 1 poor low guy between 2 or more enemies for exemple, result quake arena with wings)  pile o crap
and yes i did fly AW FR for about 6 months before i left for AH.


And you will love be killed for a ground vehicle or buff gunner about 2k distance when only thing you could do is look him

NEVER been hit from 2k by a buff.  If you know anything about ballistics... a buff hits harder when u are attacking his 6, if he hits u at even d1.5 there is a good chance it will hurt.  50cal is lethal to distances greater than that in reality.

An Antiaircraft Gunned GV should stand a chance of killing you at ranges you can't shoot back.. can't understand your complaint there.....
Unlike AW MG and cannon rounds don't 'dissappear' at d700


Rat.. is ignorance really bliss?

Enjoy IL2 mate, lemme know when they implement a real view system, then it might be worth flyin more than an hour or two a week.

And all these quake comparisons.... quake offers a game with parity between all players...  I guess if we all flew the same plane that would exist in ALL flight sims...

SKurj
« Last Edit: May 20, 2002, 10:54:11 AM by SKurj »

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2002, 12:20:20 PM »
Sirch and Muckmaw I am originally from Brentwood LI, living in Huntington currently damn small world.

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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2002, 02:52:22 AM »
i don't fly IL-2 because don't like me. It had a really total unrealistic flaps and engine use.
If you had  92% fuel and i have 99% with same plane, are you sure same rendiment? Ok let's thing you survive a 1 vs 1 vs me with that load of fuel when you have 1% and i have 7% let me know what will happend. You will claim BINGOOOO!!
I have bee hit for buff gunners at near 2k ok i was at his 6, but i can't do nothing vs him at that distance. Hitech said buff guns hasn't convergence and did same damage all .50 cal. but i can't kill nodody at more 1k with a F4Ud and i have been killed at 12 oc high infront a b26 at near 1.5 and extending.
At AW FR you only have to said bingo fuel or ammo and 90% of times you will survive here is at inverse. First time i went to kill a guy that was ganged by 2 countrymen and kill him at AW FR I have to log out for 1 complete day, it didn't like enemy and countrymen. 2vs1 is gangbang but some pilots manage to survive 10vs1 is quakebang. Last night me vs 2 Spits 1 109 1 F6F 1 Niki. Turning with a F4U manage to kill 2 guys and run acks and Gv's, and i was a dweeb runhog at ack LOL that is pile of crap.

Quake planes are Spit, niki and la7. You may know if you are flying a Fw.

I will fly here since i find something better as everybody.
I said him what are differences for me. Only thing you do it is blame about me. I said him i prefer AH over AW. Probably it is more realistic but isn't perfect. HT has a lot of work to do with damage model of GV's and some planes (Super La7 is harder that any Fw or F4U). Install AW again and try to do a Loop with negative G's. Are Bombers modeled correct? Could a b17 loop at 20k and split S vs a 262?

Skur... is ignorance really bliss?
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2002, 07:38:57 AM »
Skurj.... Barcelona,Spain

And of course: "You may know if you are flying a Fw."

Need I say more?
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2002, 07:44:38 AM »
"is ignorance really bliss?"

 Really?   Maybe! ;)

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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2002, 08:23:25 AM »
Big error i don't fly Fw !!TIO LISTO!!!
I've to say something more YANKIE

Good ol' US of A  LOL
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