Author Topic: F4u4............ (Read 1865 times)

pbirmingham · « **Reply #60 on:** December 17, 2001, 04:30:00 PM »

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Originally posted by StSanta:

Oh, and for the sods that only play 2-3 hours and therefore have to fly for two whole months before being able to afford a plane:

I'm a poor sod. I can only work 2-3 hours a week. The capitalistic system is biased against me - why am *I* not allowed to own a Ferrari, when the dude who works 80 hour weeks can?

Ooooh! OOooh! Here's a way to let us poor workin' sods fly the perk planes, and to generate a little more revenue for HTC.

They ought to sell perkies, a dime each. Want that 262? Twenty bucks, please!

<g,d,r>

Karnak · « **Reply #61 on:** December 17, 2001, 05:20:00 PM »

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Make the icons just say "fighter" or "bomber" until you get real close. Hell, I can just guess La7 or Spit at d6 and have a 75% chance of being right.

BS, agenda pusher!!!!

Raubvogel · « **Reply #62 on:** December 17, 2001, 05:22:00 PM »

Hehe, I got a live one here! Get the net!

Tac · « **Reply #63 on:** December 17, 2001, 06:16:00 PM »

Karnak, thats because nearly 75% of the planes airborne at any time ARE spits or La7's. So he's right. Heeeheee

"WRT perking late war planes currently not perked, tread lightly. 5 points may not sound like a lot to many of you guys, but to the new guy it places these planes out of reach. Now they get the joy of flying their 202's, Zekes, Spit V's, and 109F's against guys that can remain untouchable. What you wind up doing is removing equity from the sim..."

I disagree. I believe it will actually help them rather than "taking it out of their reach". Many newguys just see that these planes gives them the biggest advantage and stick to them... not learning anything

. They want to fly a pony? there's the B model. Its even faster. a 109? you got 3 models to choose from. a 190? also 3 models. La7? There's la5. This is why I said to perk the late war models that have earlier models in the game. In fact, all the above are NOT newbie planes except the la7. d9,g10 and 51D are planes that gets them killed quickly in the furball MA.

Plus they'd get more perks per kill by using "other" planes, making the jump to the 5 perk planes something of a victory.

Vets? Flying those planes wont get them enough perks that fast to regain those they lose.. it may also add some incentive to survive fights instead of mere 1-way ticket sorties. 5 perks at a time will drain the hoarded perkies quickly. And you can add the other late war plane models to the perk list once they get earlier models. Maybe some balance would be achieved in the MA, instead of having the late war monsters be the plane of choice because they're the only ones that can "equalize" the field against the hordes of late war planes already airborne.

Kieran · « **Reply #64 on:** December 17, 2001, 06:46:00 PM »

The trouble, dear Tac, is you assume everyone wants to learn. If you have to force someone to do it, it isn't very fun, right? If the game isn't fun, people don't play.

Your assumption that it makes better players may be totally true, but won't matter if there aren't people here to learn.

J_A_B · « **Reply #65 on:** December 17, 2001, 08:01:00 PM »

"I asked HT specifically bout the f4u-4 after i got sole attention of a furball and got shot down. Hes stated its singled out liek that BECAUSE its a perk plane."

This proves, beyond any doubt, that HiTech knows what he's doing with the perk system.

J_A_B

Steven · « **Reply #66 on:** December 17, 2001, 10:02:00 PM »

Don't perk anything. Let us fly what we wish to fly with no hinderence or additional cost. So what if everyone flies something blue with cannons or everyone flies something without propellers? It's not stopping anyone from flying LA7s, 109s or all the other aircraft.

Oh wait, that's right...It wouldn't provide the variety everyone wants to see and would decrease the enjoyment of flying a P51, LA7, 109 or Spit V. Hmmm, so what'll happen if Wildcats and Warhawks are ever introduced? Will the answer to us early-war fans be "but you can still fly your piddly Warhawk plane in the MA among LA7s and G10s because it's available in the hangar do don't perk our rides, let everyone fly what they want to fly"? I know, we've not come to this point yet and don't see early war planes coming any times soon. But they may.

hazed- · « **Reply #67 on:** December 17, 2001, 11:08:00 PM »

ever wish you never said anything?

Tumor · « **Reply #68 on:** December 17, 2001, 11:27:00 PM »

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Originally posted by J_A_B:
"I asked HT specifically bout the f4u-4 after i got sole attention of a furball and got shot down. Hes stated its singled out liek that BECAUSE its a perk plane."

This proves, beyond any doubt, that HiTech knows what he's doing with the perk system.

J_A_B

Yep. I fly the -4 on occasion and it never fails I end up with a horde of drooling point dweebs chasing me all over creation and back.

Not a problem in my view, I choose to fly it and I also choose to fly it right, I've only lost 1 or 2, and in those cases, I really didn't give a crap lol.

I'm all for the perk system, although I do believe the -4 is a tad on the expensive side. Further, I don't really think HiTech is going to leave the early war planeset out of the picture forever, who knows maybe were in for suprise.

Tumor

Sancho · « **Reply #69 on:** December 18, 2001, 02:07:00 AM »

F4U4 rules. 60 points is good to go. Hell, I'd love to see an 80 point F4U4 with cannons.

Eaglecz · « **Reply #70 on:** December 18, 2001, 04:38:00 AM »

if you are furball dweeb you will lose all perkplanes there no matter cost. Because its quite normal that people fireing on Tempest,TA152 from D 1k. Specialy p47,51D,47`s,F4u,f6f,38 and rest of .50 cal spray and prey lames.
problem isnt in perk cost but in you.
Because when you see perk plane, your deafault goal it to make that boy as big pain as possible, so lames will attack no matter that they climbed up to 20k 10 mins and that tempest is in 6k with 5 on six... that high idiot will dive with his complex that you can fly somethinkg what he cant.

Dont be surprised that spit V will HO your TA152 ... he never saw that bird he just wanna have a look.

Kieran · « **Reply #71 on:** December 18, 2001, 06:15:00 AM »

Eaglc-

...or he MIGHT be diving down because killing that one perk plane earns him points equivalent to 3-4 kills?

Steven-

Sure, perk different planes WHEN the early war stuff is here. Have HTC announced the FM2, P-40, Oscar, 109E, Spit I, or Fokker XXI yet? No. Why cut the planeset by a third before then?

Eaglecz · « **Reply #72 on:** December 18, 2001, 06:32:00 AM »

why do you wanna earn perks when you will never use them ?
or you will lose them in 1. fureball

Kieran · « **Reply #73 on:** December 18, 2001, 07:01:00 AM »

Eaglc-

Do you have kids? Have you tried explaining economics to them?

lazs1 · « **Reply #74 on:** December 18, 2001, 10:25:00 AM »

DOA.. we don't agree. I think the whole perk idea sucks. I think that "surprise" sucks if it is mereley... "choose your surprise" I think surprise is when someone sees a low slow P47 or hog and get's waxed because of skill not plane choice. I believe that nobody "earns" a perk ride and am very glad that they are such a stigma. for djas benifiet... "I have thousands of the damn things (perk points)" I use a few to kill GV's once in a blue moon in the 1C. The -4 is not worth the effort. I don't want to hunt lags or 51's. the -4 just makes for a boring Hog ride.

I will go farther.. I believe that every 109 is different enough to get it's own icon.. same for the 190's. Realistic?? You really didn't have to identify "which" variation you were fihgting in the war. It was assumed that it was the latest version or.. you knew what came up from what fields.. If it was a second line fighter then you just won more easily. You got lucky. To make matters worse.. the second line fighters were usually pretty war weary.
lazs