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Offline Daff

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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2002, 06:50:22 AM »
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I Rather buy a new PC that burns away these silly game consoles.


Except that the PC games market appears to be getting smaller and the console market *alot* bigger.
A couple of years ago, PC games would take up about half the floor space in the gameshops here in the UK..now it's less than 25%.

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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2002, 09:08:53 AM »
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Ya know Elf, when you 1st came on here you were a 1st class troller

Now you're just old news. You call that bait?


You're right Moose. I need a vacation. The stress is getting to me.

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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2002, 10:28:13 AM »
PS2 = NCAA College Football 2002 for me.

that's the only reason I got it.  Plus I was about to have surgery and was gonna be stuck in the easy chair with no comfortable way of playing games on the PC for a couple of weeks.   Basically I played the hell out of it for 2 weeks, and now occasionally play a game of football here and there on it.
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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2002, 10:37:25 AM »
A good sim will never come out on a console
I will never buy one, consoles are for kids with two left hands.

Btw that 25 % for PC is not bad at all

That 75% for consoles.

PS1,PS2,gameboy,gamecube,Xbox,etc.

U ain't got that 75% for one type console.

And btw those games are way to expensive too

Offline JoeDirt

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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2002, 10:54:51 AM »
hey, mydickisinawolf (E[lfe]nwolf) i happen to play ice hockey. i weigh 187 and im 6'. but im lazy and yeah my roomis a mes. i play the xbox 30 mins to an hour a day....now that its summer. :D

so, pull it out of the wolf, and stfu.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2002, 10:57:42 AM by JoeDirt »

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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2002, 10:56:36 AM »
just wait for BROADBAND!!! :p ;)

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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2002, 10:57:51 AM »
Heh, weak or not, it still worked.

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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2002, 11:05:55 AM »
I've read this thread with some interest as I have recently considered an XBOX or a PS2. I play flight and driving sims mainly and a few FPS games (sorry but keyboard and mouse is the ONLY way to play an FPS) so my PC is fine for that. I want a DVD player but figured for a little extra I may as well have a games system as well so my son and I can play the sports games we enjoy playing together such as the EA series of games (Madden, FIFA etc etc) He has a PS1 with not many games so it would not be much of a bonus to be able to play them on a PS2 (PS1 games look terrible now anyway)

While the XBOX is technically superior it seems SONY is not content to sit back with recent announcements regarding the PS3 and its long term support that appeals to me as I sometimes think if Bill Gates decides the console market is a little too much to conquer he might just pull out and leave the XBOX to be the BETA MAX of the console world. On the other hand if he is really commited he has the bucks to throw at it and surely future XBOX's would be backward compatible but then his track record is not so good at delivering this. Seems both the PS2 and XBOX have online gaming planned, the XBOX more or less comes resdy for this while the PS2 has online gaming in the pipeline and Sony say online gaming will feature heavily in the PS3. As I already have a cable connection supplying two pc's I'm not interested in browsing through a console but the thought of online gaming such as the EA sports eries is kind of appealing (maybe I can find someone I can beat as my son is near invincible at all the games I used to think I was good at...ho hum must be getting old)

I have heard reports of the XBOX scratching DVD's, is this an urban myth or anyone experienced this problem? Also I fancy setting up a better sound system for my TV so would be interested in setting up a Dolby 5.1 system to incorporate either and XBOX or PS2..anyone done this?

With EA supporting the two formats I'm interested in (sorry Gamecube you look good but no DVD support) its a hard choice.

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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2002, 11:43:31 AM »
I do not own any consoles and likely never will, but the article is pure BS for ignorant public.

 Moore's Law applies only to silicon chip, not to the rest of the hardware.

 In $300 X-Box a processor costs MS about $60 - with $40 of that being cost of the chip itself - the processor base dies not get cheaper.
 If in 6 years the Moore's law reduces the price by 1/8th, it will apply only to the chip, so the sabings will be 7/8 x 40 = $35.

 The processor mounting, boards, metal, plastic, case manufacture, brackets, assembly will cost the same or more in 6 years, so the X-Box will cost MS $262, not $37.50!
 Hard drives are not going to get cheaper as in any product there is a minimum price at which it is worth making it at all. HDs capacity will be much bigger in 6 years at thw same price but why wwould X-BOX need extra capacity.
 CD-Player will not sell for less then $50 even if it plays DVD, etc. - becasue the main expence is in laser and motor, not circuitry.

 How about transportation? Storage costs? Distribution expences? Retail expences? Advertising expences?
 Even if MS gets the processor for free along with the chipset and graphics processor, it will not drop their cost by half.

 That is true with any product that achieves maturity - cars, furniture, clothes, etc. - the price stops dropping while quality continues increasing.

 Whether MS is losing money on X-Box or not, I don't know - and too lazy to examine it's quarterly reports - but the argument of that article is flawed.

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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2002, 12:28:25 PM »
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hey, mydickisinawolf (E[lfe]nwolf


I really hope that was a knee jerk response, and not something you put any effort into.

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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2002, 01:22:20 PM »
i ask you a question...who CARES everyone knows you can get 5* the power and graphics from a good computer and if you want ot play the console games get a emulator and some roms but who wants to play those when you can play AH

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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2002, 01:54:46 PM »
Careful, SB. He's a 6' 187 lb. hockey player. :rolleyes:

Vorticon, here's why:

1. It's a group thang. Playing with four people in the same room, while we're pitching back beers and eating pizza is an entirely different soft of game than huddling in front of my glowing screen, playing with people I've never met.

2. Flight sims on consoles generally suck. Sports games are far better. Huddling around a computer desk with gamepads is feasible, but not nearly as comfortable (see #1).

3. Software Maturity. Out of the box, the software works. No patches, no updates. It's done.

4. Longevity. There are still plenty of people using PS1. I wouldn't be surpised to find PS2 still in action five years from now.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2002, 02:21:49 PM by Sandman »
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2002, 05:56:22 PM »
Elfenwolf thot we were fat children that didnt play and sport....i was just correcting him :)

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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2002, 06:06:42 PM »
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Elfenwolf thot we were fat children that didnt play and sport....i was just correcting him :)


Sorry Joe. See, I had assumed after viewing the pictures of your room and reading your posts that you were a fat lazy twelve year old who lives in a pig sty. My bad, you are a fat lazy 6' 187 lb. hockey player who lives in a pig sty. I stand corrected.

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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2002, 06:08:50 PM »
thank you