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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2002, 06:45:41 PM »
Like Masher, I started playing the drums in the 5th grade as well, but I had to end the playing to what I call "growing up"...basically, bouts with apartment-life and then family and people moving on and all that.  I had the lessons and all that and could sight-read drumkit charts once upon a time and in the 10th grade (like a fool) chose La Villa Strangiato to perform to for my drum-teacher's clinic.  I think it was 10-minutes of playing in front of a bunch of drummers from around the city...what was I thinking?  My being able to play dissapeared more and more as I got older though and it's now been a good 6 years since I last played the skins and I'm almost 36 now.  I started on guitar about 10 yrs ago but I can't quite pick that up like I did the drums.  I can play a lot Rush on it (well, the older stuff up to about "Grace"), but no leads and don't ask me to ad-lib to it.  Lucky you that you can start it back up again.

I'm not overly thrilled with this latest album.  However, "One Little Victory" sounds like a good song to come out of a drum solo with.

Cool to see musicians on here.
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2002, 07:01:01 PM »
I did the same thing.. sorta' :)
started on drums but living in apartments most of my young life led me to something I could 'turn down'... or risk being evicted constantly !

decided on electric guitar because I could use headphones to practice.

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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2002, 04:47:45 AM »
This is the worst Rush CD to date by a long ways and although I understand the direction, doesn't mean I'm going to use blind loyalty to enjoy it. Buying fulfills that obligation I guess. At least it wasn’t a bad solo effort by one of them again. Talk about “headaches” indeed.

I really don't know who would enjoy it actually because it doesn't sound like Rush, and it's really not exciting or like anything non-Rush fans would listen to.

Seems more like an experimental recording session than a cohesive “new” “RUSH” Cd. Uninspired guitars, groove oriented drums lack flash and technical precision that wow’d fans of ‘ol, and Geddy’s (IMO excellent voice) delayed, layered, and hidden in the mix as if someone is hiding something..

Pretty crappy but it might give life to the Live DVD I’ve waited 13 years for.

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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2002, 09:58:15 AM »
say it ain't so...

I haven't heard it yet.

can't stand over-processed voices and I prefer the heavier guitar stuff...    :confused:

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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2002, 10:50:00 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2002, 11:12:42 AM »
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This is the worst Rush CD to date by a long ways and although I understand the direction, doesn't mean I'm going to use blind loyalty to enjoy it. Buying fulfills that obligation I guess. At least it wasn’t a bad solo effort by one of them again. Talk about “headaches” indeed.

I really don't know who would enjoy it actually because it doesn't sound like Rush, and it's really not exciting or like anything non-Rush fans would listen to.

Seems more like an experimental recording session than a cohesive “new” “RUSH” Cd. Uninspired guitars, groove oriented drums lack flash and technical precision that wow’d fans of ‘ol, and Geddy’s (IMO excellent voice) delayed, layered, and hidden in the mix as if someone is hiding something..

Pretty crappy but it might give life to the Live DVD I’ve waited 13 years for.



 is this the 4th studio album since their last live one?

 I love live rush albums :D

going to get this CD at lunch too....

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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2002, 11:46:42 AM »
Creamo.

I had my doubts too after the first few listens.  I was especially disappointed by the absence of the masterful sounds of Alex guitar work.  Here he plays about the meanest rythm guitar on the planet but the wonderful lead guitar work from the past is almost completely absent.

However, after the first three songs have passed there is indeed some very nice subterfuge in compositions overall that do make for some intriguing listening.  The lyrics of Peart have most undoubtadly changed, but since he has changed, as we all do, the inspiration and need to follow new paths sometimes give joy even when the results seem to disappoint at first sensation.
Im pleased with his writing.  Especially given his personal trials, Ive found his words very deep and personal.

Another point is how mellow Geddys vocals have become.  Im not too fond of the harmony on vocals but overall the singing is pleasant.

I havent been really thrilled with a Rush album since "Moving Pictures" but the band follows its own path, for better or for worse, and we either go along and enjoy the later works or we dont.  Besides, we will always have "A farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, 2112, Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures" to provide a sincere link to times gone by.  When all is said and done, this is a very wonderful thing :)
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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2002, 03:27:34 PM »
I'm actually starting to like this album and it may end up being one of my favorites from them the last twenty-years (Counterparts another favorite.)  I think I was at first looking at it with a more than necessary critical eye being a fan and all and any new style they incorporated was tough to swallow.  

This CD seems much more guitar oriented to me and I feel it's heavier than most of their recent stuff.  It sounds to me like a cross between Counterparts and Test For Echo, which makes sense being that those are recent albums.  One thing I didn't notice right off the bat is that there are no keyboards.  Yep, as I type this I looked at the credits and it reads:  "Geddy Lee:  bass guitar, vocals" and that's it.  However, in place of some of the melody lines keyboard sequencing might cover Geddy overdubs his voice doing "ooohie oooohs" and "la la las" and stuff, which was a hard pill to swallow but I'm getting comfortable with it now.  (Rush does Enya?)  

I think Rush is afraid of an empty sound being a 3-piece band and there is a lot of overdubbing of voices and guitar which does give a full sound, though I don't think it's always needed.  It'll be interesting how it sounds live.  Though I said I feel this album is more guitar oriented, what's odd is there are none of your standard leads like you get in most rock songs.   Being a fan since 1978, I'd have to rate this album above such things as Power Windows (ick, ick, ick), Hold Your Fire, Presto and Roll The Bones.  But the days of Moving Pictures, 2112, Permanent Waves and A Farewell To Kings are gone and maybe that's a good thing...that was all more than 20 years ago.  There are some very strong melodies and choruses on this album and I am enjoying it.  It sure beats my wife's Madonna, Matchbox20 and other stuff.  

One Little Victory will make a great opening or even a song coming out of a drum solo, but it's not my favorite.

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« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2002, 05:31:30 PM »
Hey BlackSheep.. how about we cover 2112 without the vocals ??

We could add guitar/bass/keyboard parts instead of vocals.
I always loved the album but the supersonic  vocals still bug me.

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« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2002, 05:46:46 PM »
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
Hey BlackSheep.. how about we cover 2112 without the vocals ??

We could add guitar/bass/keyboard parts instead of vocals.
I always loved the album but the supersonic  vocals still bug me.




 I WANT IN!!!!!!!  PLEASE LET ME DO EITHER THE BASS OR GUITAR TRACKS!!!!  MY ROOMMATE HAS A KORG SOMETHING OR ANOTHER 16 TRACK DIGITAL.  Oops sorry for the caps....  I'll go buy cakewalk too.....

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« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2002, 05:52:07 PM »
2112,

On of the greatest masterpieces ever put down on tape.

PinkFloyd couldnt touch this if all four of em went insane :D

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« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2002, 06:15:52 PM »
I would love to cover that one - I already know it by heart - yep the vocals are high and it'd be hard to find the right person to do it justice - an option would be to transpose it down a step or 2 and then i'll sing it :)

also i read a transcript where someone asked geddy if they were ever planning on doing a full length movie/video on it and he said that would be something they would consider later on...

I've got drummers here in Nashville that will play on it for free if we can template it down first :) and I know quite a few that will slam on it - looking forward to the CD's you're sending

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« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2002, 10:12:43 PM »
I'm getting the stuff together.
I have to clean my CD burner I guess because regular CD's are being seen as CD-RW's.  
Probably mineral dust from the humidifier.


excellent!.. 2112 it is then !

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« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2002, 11:14:48 AM »
Article on making of latest Rush CD:

http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicRush/may7_rush2-can.html

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« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2002, 12:20:53 PM »
Sheep, dont winzip mp3's, they are already compressed :-)