Author Topic: will we still be at the mercy of the fluffers in 1.10? (Read 1145 times)

Furious · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2002, 03:14:14 PM »

I imagine the 1943-45 Luftwaffe and Lazs had/have the same feelings towards buffs.

Lazs, you are a LW at heart.

F.

Fariz · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2002, 03:16:56 PM »

I think dammage from buffs runs will be less. No pinpoint accuracy anymore. You can set run to get 2 fighter hangars... If you set correct salvo, delay and your run is very accurate. But unlikely you will get 3 of them.

Do not know, I am still quite skeptical about this new feature. I think that is very good for scenarious, but MA strat will have "fever" for some time, like it were with resupplies.

Again, may be not, I will be happy if this change will not affect current strat much.

Fariz

Wotan · « **Reply #17 on:** May 25, 2002, 03:38:51 PM »

I suspect my squad has flown as much if not more jabo then any squad in ah.

We never take out fhs or fuel. Mostly we kill the vhs and ack. I have never been at a field where theres a huge furball and 6 jabos come in and end the fight. Never. You can speculate all you want or try to change the subject around. The fact is fluffers do this, the have done it and they will do it future.

At bases that were attacked enmass by jabo they are always captured.

Karnak · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2002, 03:43:25 PM »

Wotan,

When was the last time that you could not (and I mean could not) take off in your fighter because of something a B-17 or Lanc had done?

I can't remember the last time I had that problem.

Remember, to meet this description all the FH at several bases must be down.

Revvin · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2002, 03:45:06 PM »

Bombers were used in WW2 to deny the use of airfields for strategic purpose. If I see a friendly field under attack I will do my best to stop that happening and stop the launch of more enemy fighters. Craters have no effect to taxiing aircraft so the only way to stop them is to destroy the hangars.

muckmaw · « **Reply #20 on:** May 25, 2002, 03:56:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Wotan
If ya dont think fluffers want attention read mucks post. The same attitude powers most fluffers.

Obviously, Wotan, you don't know jack about me, or my gaming style. I've no interest in stopping a furball. You guys can chase each others tail all day for all I care. And garnering your attention, or respect, much less that of Lazs, is hardly a concern for me.

I take bases. Plain and simple. Look at my squad. You know what we do on our missions. Hell, you've flown in them. Look at my stats. You'll see I'm killed in a goon more than any other a/c save the 26. What's this tell you? I'm trying to help my squad, and our friggin country take bases, so we don't have our backs to the wall constantly. What happens when we take a base, Wotan? You get a new place to fly out of and start furballing all over again.

Your welcome.

That's my style of play, take it or leave it. If I get to blow Lazs to pieces in the process, that's just a bonus because of the mutual distaste we have for each other.

You're a great pilot Wotan. I've had the priviledge of watching you work, but your attitude towards the people that fight to capture bases for you and yours leaves alot to be desired.

Toad · « **Reply #21 on:** May 25, 2002, 03:57:38 PM »

The game is evolving, that's all.

New elements are being added, new gameplay is being added, things will be different in a variety of ways.

I think HTC probably knows their intent with regard to adding this stuff and have probably thought about it and "wargamed" it. I doubt they are adding things randomly and just hoping it will all work out in the end.

They've done a pretty good job so far, haven't they? Why second guess them now?

Yeah, we'll all be learning new things now. The game will change in ways we have not foreseen.

But that's what keeps this new and interesting, no?

SKurj · « **Reply #22 on:** May 25, 2002, 04:05:31 PM »

i dunno... last night i popped 3 26's and a lanc, rearmed (who cares what they might have done to the fh's) took off again, got a B17, got 3 others smoking(formation of 5) rearmed for lack of fuel.(they had killed all FH VH and some fuel) took off collected the kills as a couple of teammates finished the 17's and then i popped about 2-3 fighters before myself dying...

All in Fwa5 with 2 20's...

'fluffs' didn't spoil my fight

SKurj

Fariz · « **Reply #23 on:** May 25, 2002, 04:32:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
The game is evolving, that's all.

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But that's what keeps this new and interesting, no?

Yes.

Fariz

Wotan · « **Reply #24 on:** May 25, 2002, 04:54:04 PM »

EDITED

never mind fellas this is a never ending debate.

Its always been about how buffs are used in ah. Theres no need to get your feelings hurt over other folks opinions. I have mine you have yours.

But I am right

Flossy · « **Reply #25 on:** May 25, 2002, 05:23:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Wotan
Theres no need to get your feelings hurt over other folks opinions. I have mine you have yours.

But I am right

Absolutely not! I have been following this thread with interest, as I am really looking forward to the challenge of the new bomber setup. However, I am not about to get upset because people have different opinions.... and no, I'm right!

Arfann · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2002, 06:50:36 PM »

Ogun said:

"Anybody ever consider that lazs might actually be Gilbert Gottfried? The voice just seems to match the words"

Thanks for nothing, Ogun. Now I got that obnoxious voice running through my head along with Lazsie's obnoxious posts.

weaselsan · « **Reply #27 on:** May 25, 2002, 06:51:27 PM »

Being new to AH. i'm a little confused . Isn't the purpose of the buffs to be used for stratigic game play. eg. Destroying fuel,hangers etc. preventing the enemy fighters from useing that field? It seems like the complaint is that the game is a fighter furball. We had a special place for that in air warrior called fighter town. There you were free to furball as much as you liked. How would one play this game as it was intended if you couldn't use the buffs for there intended purpose?

Wotan · « **Reply #28 on:** May 25, 2002, 07:23:48 PM »

no what were heavy bombers used for during ww2?

Do you think they spent every sortie trying to kill a fh?

Theres a strat model to ah with factories trains trucks twn etc. Its largely ignored.

Also theres a difference in tactical and stategic.

the stategy in ah is reset. The tactics are base capture.

Steven · « **Reply #29 on:** May 25, 2002, 11:32:22 PM »

I'd call taking airfields strategic as well...the maneuvers (not Immelman types) or plans used to take the airfield the tactics, whether you only take out only the fuel or you only use B-17s, etc. Weasel, I agree with what I think you are saying and I can't understand all the whining about the buffs. This isn't WW2, it's a game without any attrition...an arena of various types of aircraft from the war. Some like the low altitude turn-fights, some like the bombers and destroying ground targets, some like E-fighting and some like booming and zooming and some like to hunt buffs. I'm glad we have the variety here. If someone doesn't like having his base hit by a buff, take an aircraft to high altitude and hunt them down. But some only like to take Spits and outturn anything or LA7s and run everyone down for a kill and think they would've been the hero of their country. The cycle is complete though when a big fat slow heavy buff comes in overhead and takes out the base those quakers like to take off from. The goal is to take someone out of a fight, no matter what you use or how you use it.