Author Topic: AH 152 vs. Actual 152 (Read 911 times)

Guppy35 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 30, 2002, 12:55:38 PM »

Just curious Wilbus. How many production Ta152H-1s were produced and delivered?

Throw out the service testing,pre-production H-0s. They wouldn't have been in squadron service. I'm talking production H-1s.

of the 67 Ta152s, how many were delivered to squadrons?

My source says 10 H-1s delivered. Talk about a non factor.

And what do you mean about the US tested 152s having 'old engines?" Seems to me the mandate for Watson's Whizzers and company was to get the best surviving aircraft for testing. That would include replacement engines etc. And the maint on the tested birds would have been better then wartime conditions would it not? Also fuel would have been better? If anything performance during testing would not have reflected operational performance because of this? You also make it sound like there would have been no documenation or that somehow the maint on a German aircraft would have been beyond the best maint folks the US had?

Dan

DeadDuck · « **Reply #61 on:** May 30, 2002, 05:58:12 PM »

God. For a plane with 10 production copies you'd think people would forget about it yet I have been seeing this exact thread for 13 years now.

DD

K West · « **Reply #62 on:** May 30, 2002, 07:51:20 PM »

P-39!!

lol.....

Hi DD.

Westy

Toad · « **Reply #63 on:** May 30, 2002, 08:00:39 PM »

But DD.. but.. but.. but......

"Ve kuld haf vun ze var if only.......... IF only.... IF ONLY... IF ONLY.......

vell, ve kuld haf VUN!"

It won't ever stop.

Sorta reminds me of the Confederate license plate.. you know, the "Heck NO! I ain't fergettin!"

Karnak · « **Reply #64 on:** May 30, 2002, 09:28:20 PM »

Wilbuz,

My book is

The History of German Aviation
Kurt Tank
Fockewulf's Designer and Test Pilot

by Wolfgang Wagner.

Guppy,

My sources indicate that as many as 150 H series Ta152s were built before the Russiand captured the Cottbus Works where they were built.

Here is an interesting section from my book:

There are so many different claims regarding the number of Ta 152s actually built that it's difficult to arrive at a definitive figure. It is a known fact that the Ta 152A was never built. Only a few of the Ta 152B and C series were produced.
It was a different matter with the H series, despite the fact that construction documentation was not available until March 1944. In a letter dated 18 July 1944 Oberst Petersen, commander of the Rechlin test center, expressed concern at the overly hasty introduction of the Ta 152. He saw danger for the H-series in the program's accelerated tempo. The fact that the Ta 152 production began with the H-series and not with an A, B and C version, as was normal, was cause for worry in and of itself.

DeadDuck · « **Reply #65 on:** May 31, 2002, 12:52:42 AM »

Hey everyone:)

Somebody sprinkle some holy water on the Ta-152 and maybe it will stay dead this time. Or maybe just let the ones who want it mount them on cinder block in their front yard.....would be a realistic pose for a Ta-152 at that...........

DD

I wish I could spell.......

Wilbus · « **Reply #66 on:** May 31, 2002, 04:27:23 AM »

I'll check the numbers a lil later, too tired for it now.

Watsons wizzers did indeed maintain the engines good, should have expressed my self in a different matter.

When, however, they tested the TA152, they never used the boosts (MW 50 and GM1), they neither tested it at very high alt since they were happy with what they had. I can type it later aswell with the exact words from the book.

Wilbus · « **Reply #67 on:** May 31, 2002, 04:28:30 AM »

No TA152 A's were produced even though the A series was Fully ready for produtcion (maybe even more so then the H's), for some reason the RLM decided to scrap the A project (thus they lost a valuable year of the introduction of a good high alt fighter).