Author Topic: Ta152, some facts. (Read 1486 times)

Wilbus · « **Reply #15 on:** May 30, 2002, 08:49:41 AM »

Congratulations Montezuma, you just made #1 on my list of the most stupid people I've had the displeasure of knowing.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #16 on:** May 30, 2002, 08:55:09 AM »

have u forgotten my tip, wilbus?

Wilbus · « **Reply #17 on:** May 30, 2002, 09:02:27 AM »

CRAP!

Wilbus · « **Reply #18 on:** May 30, 2002, 09:03:20 AM »

PS. The TA152 A was not a prototype, it was fully ready for production but the RLM decided not to build it for some unexplainable reason, thus a year was lost on getting a good high altitude fighter in to production.

RRAM · « **Reply #19 on:** May 30, 2002, 10:16:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Congratulations Montezuma, you just made #1 on my list of the most stupid people I've had the displeasure of knowing.

he's on my own private list since some months ago...

you have loads of patience, haven't you wilbus?

Wilbus · « **Reply #20 on:** May 30, 2002, 10:26:34 AM »

I do RRAM, It's gotto end somewhere though

Turbot · « **Reply #21 on:** May 30, 2002, 10:35:49 AM »

Thanks for sharing all this real data - now I don't feel so nuts. Will be interesting to see what sort of feedback we get.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #22 on:** May 30, 2002, 11:39:24 AM »

At least we arent "faking" the info now..... It's progress for monezuma - remember he's pretty stupid this slow to catch on.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 30, 2002, 01:14:16 PM »

Same question as in the other Ta152 thread.

How many Ta152H-1s were produced? My source says 10.

That makes it a definate non factor in terms of introducing it to AH or any other flight sim other then for the novelty factor.

Too many other planes that actually had an impact on things to do first I'd suggest.

Even if you include every pre-production test aircraft and the A-0 A-1, B-0, B-1, C-0, C-1 R1 etc you only get 67 and how many of those made it to an operational combat squadron? Not test squadrons, combat squadrons.

Dan
BRING THE SPIT XII to AH! (at least they have a proven combat history, being operational from the Spring of 43 to September of 44 with 100 produced and two squadrons operating them....oh, btw, I'm kidding about the Spit XII in AH. As much as I love that kite, it would make no sense to put the time into modeling it for the game)

Turbot · « **Reply #24 on:** May 30, 2002, 01:18:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Same question as in the other Ta152 thread.

How many Ta152H-1s were produced? My source says 10.

That makes it a definate non factor in terms of introducing it to AH or any other flight sim other then for the novelty factor.

Too many other planes that actually had an impact on things to do first I'd suggest.

Even if you include every pre-production test aircraft and the A-0 A-1, B-0, B-1, C-0, C-1 R1 etc you only get 67 and how many of those made it to an operational combat squadron? Not test squadrons, combat squadrons.

Dan
BRING THE SPIT XII to AH! (at least they have a proven combat history, being operational from the Spring of 43 to September of 44 with 100 produced and two squadrons operating them....oh, btw, I'm kidding about the Spit XII in AH. As much as I love that kite, it would make no sense to put the time into modeling it for the game)

whispers quietly, "ummm Guppy, we already have the Ta152..."

Guppy35 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 30, 2002, 01:31:12 PM »

Ahh well, so I didn't proofread it

The question still remains re: the TA152

Much ado about nothing don't ya think?

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #26 on:** May 30, 2002, 05:41:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
How many Ta152H-1s were produced? My source says 10.

Lets suppose the germans were able to build 30000 operational Me262 ... We should have a non perked 262 for AH then, right?

I'm gettin really tired about the production numbers nonsense factor.

Squire · « **Reply #27 on:** May 31, 2002, 12:26:57 AM »

I have posted this criteria before re a/c in AH and I like it:

*Must have seen combat at least once.

*3 months service during the war.

*Equipped at least an entire squadron (12+ ac flyable at once) during the 3 months of service.

Its just a good yardstick I would like to see used.

Ie, No P-80s, Seafurys, F8F Bearcats. Ever. Save em for a Korean War sim.

The 262 would be in, the TA152 would not, nor would the Do335, or the Me163.

Arado234, it would be in.

There are 100s of good a/c choices to make, of a/c that are really WW2 birds. Why does it matter? it matters because we cant have them all, so HTC needs to give the more important types (like the upcoming D3A Val and A-20 Havoc).

But thats me, I dont give a tinkers **** about the MA, I want them for the TODs and Scens.

Regards.

Staga · « **Reply #28 on:** May 31, 2002, 03:51:24 AM »

Thing is it's already modelled in AH but does it have performance like it should have?
So if you're against it your're a little late...

Wilbus · « **Reply #29 on:** May 31, 2002, 04:32:57 AM »

What Staga said, ya guys trying to get it deleted or what?

Squire, if those or your criteries, then the TA152 should definatly be in the game since it it's OK on all those.