Serious question

[Tumor]

Originally posted by Griego
Since i just played Ace's High for the 2week trial. I probably have no place to say my 2cents but here goes anyways.

 I liked Ace's High cause it has lots of people and lots of missions going on at all times. I enjoyed the buffs even though there tough as nails to shoot down sometimes but all in all it was very challenging to say the least.

 If your going to have all plane all the time this is going to happen
people will pick the very best plane to fly most of the time or aleast the plane they think is the best.
 
 If and when you can get this game to become a historical game where you have all countries represented with there allied nations. and fight Allied vs Axis for example then you can set it the Tour of Duty to be on a historical time line. Where you have early war planes fighting early war planes then slowly introduce the Planes as the war progresses untill you have all planes available. Then you will have a game that make any kind a sense.
Where stratigic elements are envolved. Hopefully you will have Historical Maps to go along with it to make it very imersive.I would love to seen all ju88's flying together in mock war theater.
or lancaster,b17's so on. I know it happens now once in a while. Then you have a p51 shooting down a b17 or a spit shooting downa lancaster and so on and it just takes the imersion factor and you sling it right out the window. then it's just another game that will have the precieved best plane against each other,and strats just don't matter that much any more. Take up a plane and furball.
 This game has wonderful stratigic element to it but when you put it together with the all planes for all concept it just deminish it's imersive potential.We all know what potential this game has.
 
 I hate for it to become 2 seprate arenas one for furballing and the other for Historical battles.Because then it would be cut into pieces and less people would be playing in each arena. Then you wouldnt have as many planes upping for those wonderful buff runs that i seen. Just really enjoyed see that many buffs up at one time and being able to try and dive in on them with abandon.

 I know it's long winded sorry.  just MHO.

WOW!!  I hope you carry on after the 2wk trial!

[MANDOBLE]

Originally posted by Mathman
Why do some people care what others fly?  I don't get it.

Math, this game is about the plane you fly and the planes you fight.

Lets suppose we had and arena full of 109G10 flying at 30k and you were in love with La7, would you be worried about what the rest of people is flying or not?

Based on your topic, perk system has no sense, if you want to fly 262, fly it, if you want to fly 202, fly it and so on. Sooner or later the C202 pilots will start to be bored of getting killed over and over by the 262 horde, but, at the same time, they are not going to have fun flying anything else than C202.

Personally, am I happy killing spit after spit? NO, its boring.

[akak]

Originally posted by MANDOBLE
Math, this game is about the plane you fly and the planes you fight.

I think you missed the point...maybe lost in the translation or something.  I think what Mathman is saying is what business is it of yours that someone prefers to fly the La7 or some other of these so-called "uber" planes?  

Lets suppose we had and arena full of 109G10 flying at 30k and you were in love with La7, would you be worried about what the rest of people is flying or not?.

Nope, I'd dive for the deck and drag them through my base's field acks.  Only a soon to be dead pilot would take a La7 up to an altitude where it performs poorly against a plane that out performs it at altitude.



Ack-Ack

[MANDOBLE]

akak, I didnt miss the point.
It is what you fly and what you fight what should matter for you as a customer of a flight sim. Would you buy a combat flight sim where you fly F6F and all the enemies are A6M3? Why do you worry about fighting only A6M3 when you are able to fly your preferred ride (F6F as an example)? Of course, probably you are not going to buy that monotone sim.

In the all flying strato G10s and you flying La7 scenary, probably, the G10s would be fighting each other at hi alt and ignoring you all the time. The result: you'll get a bit bored.

How many plane types cover more than 50% of MA plane usage? 2? 3? HTC is working on more and more planes, most if not all of them will be forgotten after first week and the people will return to their hispano/la7/n1k2 routine.

For example, I like to fly the 190 family, but in the case they become overused, I'll ask to perk them all for sure.

[scspook]

Ask yourself, why would I pay $15US a month (About $30 AUS) to fly a plane you would prefer me to cause you see to much of it.

I can answer for you to save time...

I wouldnt.

The game is the bottom line. And Players make the game. Not the planes. Not the code and not the special events. The players.  One thing that happens to be consistant in all Flight Sims.  Why cut off your nose to spite your face. The 262 is dangerous and never appeared against many of the early war planes. Hence its perked. Likewise with the Spit 14. You didnt see many go up against the 109E.

We play an unrealistic 3 side, take any plane you like kind of game.  Take the one I want most away with no sound reason based on the style of game we play with and chances are, I and many others would follow. Then their would only be you in a Spit free, La7 free sky.

I hate a 3 sided game. I think its more than a little stupid.  I hate the idea that I can fly Axis aircraft AND Allied aircraft no matter what side I choose. So why am I here?


Im here for my La7 and the players that both do and dont fly them.

Best $15US a month ive ever spent.

[Animal]

Originally posted by MANDOBLE


Math, this game is about the plane you fly and the planes you fight.

Lets suppose we had and arena full of 109G10 flying at 30k and you were in love with La7, would you be worried about what the rest of people is flying or not?

Based on your topic, perk system has no sense, if you want to fly 262, fly it, if you want to fly 202, fly it and so on. Sooner or later the C202 pilots will start to be bored of getting killed over and over by the 262 horde, but, at the same time, they are not going to have fun flying anything else than C202.

Personally, am I happy killing spit after spit? NO, its boring.

That doesnt make any sense.

If everyone is at 30k and I'm always down low in my LA7, thats MY problem, I chose to fly it, and they chose to go high. I can do two things, take a P-38L and go kill the high planes, or stay in the LA7 and whine all day like a retarded schoolgirl for the others to come down.

You analogies are moot, just because there are so many plane choices.

The cool thing is, that the developers or the other players will never give in your annoying whining, and the game will always be geared to the people who want to have fun, and not for the crybabies

[Shane]

Originally posted by MANDOBLE
For example, I like to fly the 190 family, but in the case they become overused, I'll ask to perk them all for sure.

the 190 family is too crappy to become overused and perked. altho the dorka is quite easy to get kills in if you lilke to fly like a weenie, sort of like an la7 except it doesn't climb as well.

[Shane]

Originally posted by scspook
I hate a 3 sided game. I think its more than a little stupid.  I hate the idea that I can fly Axis aircraft AND Allied aircraft no matter what side I choose. So why am I here?

well, perhaps because you've gotten into the MA habit and have forgotten there's a Combat Theatre precisiely for people with your tastes.

[DmdNexus]

What's the big deal with N1K1's and La's?
I fly 190-A5 and kill them all the time.
A few yo-yo's and these guys are dead.

[MANDOBLE]

It is not only a matter of raw performance, it is a matter of numbers, but as a vicious circle, performance means overusage.
The problem is not being able to kill the enemy, but to be killing the same enemy type most of the time over and over. I think that even for spit pilots should be boring to keep killing and being killed by spits most of the time.

[Rude]

Originally posted by Mathman
Why do some people care what others fly?  I don't get it.

Well Math, it's like this........

Folks get killed alot and instead of working harder to learn something, they want others, or the sim, to adjust to thier mediocrity. If they spent the same amount of time learning some skills as they do complaining, their world would be full of flowers and butterflies:)

The amount of La7's and Spits have actually helped me sharpen certain skills in the Mustang....I can successfully turnfight La7's and Spits trying to force an error on the bandits part, if they fly it smart, I just make an angle, get some distance and try it again. It's fun to face a challenge.

I have long thought of those who express a desire to create some kind of fair only existence in our sim as Socialists...removing any kind of inbalance so as to make us all milk white.

Diversity is a good thing, especially in Aces High:)

[MANDOBLE]

Originally posted by Rude
Diversity is a good thing, especially in Aces High:)

This is just our main leak.

[Kutt]

I have to agree with Rude. I just don't find the average Spit, N1k, LA7 that difficult to deal with in my F6F. If they are a great pilot and know their stuff they can eat my lunch if I'm not perfect, but that's good to.

I approach learning ACM like studying a martial art. You need to fight tough opponents if you ever want to get better. If I'm going to get better I don't mind jumping into a fight were there may be a perceived unfair advantage.

A perfect example is a Spit. Spits can out turn Hellcats with the same pilot on the stick. Most Spit pilots will always flat turn to get around on you. Knowing this allows you to set them up because they are so predictable. I learned this not because I was born with it, or because the Hellcat has some top secret turn cheat code. I learned this because I spent months getting whacked by Spits. Instead of rushing in here screaming for a perk or telling people to stop flying Spits. I sat behind my sticks at home and went through a self study course in anger management . After a while I actually learned a few things. There is a lot of satisfaction to be found in winning a fight your not supposed to win.

[SELECTOR]

in my experience its the nik and la7 pilots who have moved onto other aircraft that moan the most...
I have no problem what anyone flys, what dose it matter? You will always have a chance of engageing a plane which just might have a better pilot than you. the trick is to try and evaluate that pilot before putting yourself in harms way... exaple if hes much lower than you and trys to engage you stright on, then he will more likly be an inexperience pilot. engage!.. if he flys away to gain alt out of range of you then come back and blasts you out of the sky then its your own fault for not seeing it comming.. you should have engaged earlyer with advantage...
it always comes down to the pilot and how he thinks and plans his attacks..
 when to strike ,
when to avoid a fight ,
 how to sucker your enemy into your type of fight..
its not the aircraft because they can all be beaten. so it must always be the pilot..

ive seen hurricans shoot down P51s.. ive seen IL2 shoot down N1ks.

im not the best fighter pilot ( not even close) but i like to fight the better pilots because you learn so much..

so i would like to see more text saying nice fight, good kill.. rather than nik dweeb get in a real plane and i will really show you how to cry..

this tour i flown spit 5 predominatly, last tour it was P47 d25.. next tour i think its gonna be Hurricane..

none of the above apply to furballing ( which i think is the scurge of the MA.. but each to his own) furballing levels the playing field some what and other factors come into play.. but thats a different subject..

so to sum up.. please respect all players regardless as to what they decided to fly.. its their money after all..

[Nifty]

mandoble, it must get boring flying 190s all the time.  You should fly something else.